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VILLAGE OF ELK GROVE
LEGAL NOTICE
ZBA DOCKET NUMBER 22-1
The hearing in the above -entitled cause
before Barbara Anthony, CSR, RPR, a Certified
Shorthand Reporter with the County of DuPage, and
State of Illinois, taken pursuant to the provisions
of the Zoning Ordinance of the Village of Elk Grove
Village, at 901 Wellington Avenue, Elk Grove
Village, on the loth day of February, 2021, at the
hour of 7:00 p.m.
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PRESENT:
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Donald G. Childress
Mr. Jacob Glimco
Mr. Tony Damptz, Jr.
Mr. Donato Latrofa
Mr. Ryan Bookler
Mr. Gary Spragg
Mr. Roberto Serrano, Jr,
Mr. Steve Rawleigh
On Behalf Petitioner
Mr. James W. Putnam, PE., Kimley & Horn
Mr. Mark Cardwell, Architect, Corgan
On Behalf of Elk Grove Village
Mr. Bryan Kozor, CBO
Plan Riviewer/Inspection Supervisor
901 Wellington Avenue
Elk Grove Village, IL 6007
847.35.4225
bkozor@elkgrove.org
Also Present:
Members of the Public
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MR. CHILDRESS: It is about 7:00 o'clock. I
will go ahead and read the zoning notice document
and then go ahead and swear Mr. Jordan in or
whoever would like to speak on your behalf and
then for Corgan, and then ask any comments or
questions from the Board Members, and then ask
for any comments from those attending tonight,
and also from Village staff attending, if there is
any questions or concerns also.
This is Elk Grove Village Legal Notice
for ZBA Docket 22-1. Public notice is hereby given
in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 8-2:D
of the Zoning Ordinance of the Village of Elk Grove
Village.
The Zoning Board of Appeals of the
Village will conduct a public hearing at the hour
of 7:00 p.m. on Thursday, February loth, 2022, at
the Charles J. Zettek Municipal Building,
901 Wellington Avenue, Elk Grove Village, Illinois,
to consider the petition of Kaleb Jordan of Corgan
seeking a variation from the provisions of the
Elk Grove Village Ordinance No. 2410 as it
pertains to permitted locations in heights of
fences in industrial zoning districts.
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Section 7E-9:(A) prohibits fences in
excess of 6 feet of height and from being
constructed in the required front yard and ahead of
the building setback line.
The petitioner is requesting to install
the following:
A 15-foot high concrete screen wall
which will extend approximately 12 feet west beyond
the front of the principal structure along Busse
Road.
An 8-foot high ornamental black security
fence with ornamental columns which will extend
approximately 69 feet south beyond the front of the
principal structure along Pratt Boulevard.
An 8-foot high ornamental black security
fence along the north and east of the property.
The property is located at 1925 Busse
Road, Elk Grove, Village, Illinois and as
identified by the following property identification
number. I will skip that.
All persons interested are invited to
attend and will be given the opportunity to be
heard. This hearing will be accessible to
individuals with disabilities. Persons requiring
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accommodations are requested to contact the
Village Clerk at 847-357-4040 preferably no later
than five days before the hearing.
Mr. Jordan, do you want to stand up to
the podium or whoever is going to speak tonight and
raise your right.
MR. CARDWELL: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: Do you swear to tell the whole
truth and nothing but the truth.
MR. CARDWELL: Yes.
MR. PUTNAM: Yes.
(At this point in the proceedings
Mr. Cardwell and Mr. Putnam were duly
sworn.)
MR. CHILDRESS: Could I have both of your
names to write down?
MR. CARDWELL: Yes. I am Mark Cardwell wi-h
Corgan. I am here on behalf of Mr. Jordan.
MR. CHILDRESS: How do you spell your last
name?
MR. CARDWELL: C-a-r-d-w-e-1-1.
MR. PUTNAM: And Jamie Putnam, P-u-t-n-m-a-n
with Kimley Horn, Civil Engineers for the project.
MR. CHILDRESS: Okay. Can you go ahead and
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present your rationale for the zoning variation
tonight, please?
MR. PUTNAM: Go ahead.
MR. CHILDRESS: Thank you for speakincr
today.
MR. CALDWELL: So as you stated at the
beginning, it is the request for the three
variances. The one is -- you know, this is a
data center site. So obviously security is most
important.
The three variances I'll do in a little
different order, but it is a standard to go from a
6-foot to an 8-foot fence, the ornamental, and that
is, you know, for around pretty much the -- let's
see in your packet. The area in pink here on the
east and the north side of the site for security.
And then the second variance is to do
the exact same thing, but put it on the south side
of the site and do that. It's in the front of the
primary structure. We're required to ask for the
variance on that as well for site security of the
employee parking lot.
And the third one is the, excuse me,
the 15-foot high screen wall along Busse for, you
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know, dual purposes of security and for screening,
as all of the generator equipment and the yard is
in the back that helps with the screening of that
equipment. And you are looking around Busse.
MR. CHILDRESS: Yes.
MR. CARDWELL: Just keep it nice and simple,
More open it up if there's any questions.
But, yes, just the 6 to 8 feet and then
for screening purposes.
MR. CHILDRESS: And the security placement
around the --
MR. CARDWELL: Correct.
MR. CHILDRESS: -- south parking lot and
access --
MR. CARDWELL: So all four sides of the
site are security. They are using the building on
the west side. North, south, and east using the
fences.
MR. CHILDRESS: Okay. Jacob, do you have any
questions or concerns?
MR. GLIMCO: I don't have any major concerns.
I guess, my question, you know, with this variance
is this pretty much standard for what you guys
would need in order to occupy this property in
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order -- for the data center purposes?
MR. CARDWELL: Yes, this is standard practice
for data centers. This is my third time coming
here in the last, you know, whatever six months
asking for basically the same variances.
So there's a very high level of security
that these require and that's why they need the
8-foot fence. It is ornamental for the look and
then we're asking for the additional screen wall
on the west side to help shield that from the
gen yard.
MR. GLIMCO: Without the security fence the
tenant would not be able to operate?
MR. CARDWELL: They would not be able to
operate, absolutely. All of these buildings
are very high security that are required.
MR. GLIMCO: Yes. Thank you.
MR. CHILDRESS: Tony.
MR. DAMPTZ JR.: No questions. I stopped at
your site. It was very clean by the way.
MR. CARDWELL: Oh, good. Thank you. The GC
is here too, so he can.
LUKE: Thank you.
MR. CHILDRESS: Donato?
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MR. LATROFA: First, my apologies for showing
up late. I have a toddler at home. There's a
schedule.
Yes, I was looking at the site.
Everything looks fine, and we've talked about this
before with your other clients about like snow
removal and stuff, all of that stuff. It doesn't
seem like that is even a problem with the way that
these parking lots are laid out at 1925. So I
don't have any of those concerns.
MR. CHILDRESS: Okay.
MR. LATROFA: Yes, it looks fine. Keep
bringing them on.
MR. CARDWELL: Yes. Thank you.
MR. CHILDRESS: Ryan.
MR. BOOKLER: Yes. Can you tell me a little
bit about the security standard. Like is it
something that's consulted with a security expert
or is there some kind of manual, just out of
curiosity?
MR. PUTNAM: Yes, I can take that.
MR. CARDWELL: He can do that.
MR. PUTNAM: So, yes, that is pretty standard
in the data center industry is to have a fence
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around the site. In that way a lot of the end user
clients and then the client that's the developer
for this has security standards that are set
around the country. And 8 feet with a secure
perimeter is pretty much what you are going to
see anywhere in the country for a data center.
MR. BOOKLER: Okay. And you have a tenant
that's moving in there; is that correct or?
MR. PUTNAM: There will be a tenant moving in,
yes.
MR. BOOKLER: Okay. Thanks for all of the
plans. I appreciate you putting in a fence and how
it looks. So thank you.
MR. PUTNAM: Yes.
MR. CARDWELL: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: Gary.
MR. SPRAGG: Yes, I think you answered my
question in that this is basically a duplicate of
two other facilities with very similar kind of
security, correct?
MR. PUTNAM: Yes, that's right.
MR. CARDWELL: Absolutely.
MR. SPRAGG: Thanks.
MR. CHILDRESS: Roberto.
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MR. SERRANO: I mean, it looks right in line
with all of the other projects. Esthetically
appealing. And the primarily concern of security
is being addressed. So no further -- no questions.
MR. CHILDRESS: Steve.
MR. RAWLEIGH: No questions. Took care of my
questions, okay.
MR. CHILDRESS: Now, I was -- I am civil
engineer also in my background, but more asset
inspections and things.
The site drainage is that all handled
by, I'm assuming, with coordination with the
Village and with prior study of the site?
MR. CARDWELL: Yes, absolutely.
So with this site there is an
underground retention vault that's actually in
the parking lot on the south side here, and there
was a, under previous code there was a retention
pond in the northeast corner. With the update on
this plan, the update and the MWRD Code, there's an
additional detention basin along the east side that
was added that is also a bio --
MR. CHILDRESS: Bioswale?
MR. CARDWELL: Bioswale for water quality.
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So everything drains to the east of the
site down and then exits the site on the southeast
corner there towards the drainage ditch.
MR. CHILDRESS: And the bioswale also acts as
a filtration --
MR. CARDWELL: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: -- media too for outgoing
water.
MR. CARDWELL: Correct. Absolutely.
Yes, meeting all of the standard codes
and working with the Engineering Department of
Elk Grove.
MR. CHILDRESS: And the site screening of all
mechanical, electrical outside things from Busse
that's common within the industry largely.
MR. CARDWELL: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: Based on the height of the
mechanical equipment, the screen proportionally
matches, right?
MR. PUTNAM: Yes. That's standard and it is
also a requirement with Elk Grove Village.
We work with Bryan and his team on
making sure that Elk Grove Village's requirement is
sufficient and standard in industry practice.
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MR. CHILDRESS: Thank you.
Are there any other Board questions?
(No responses.)
MR. CHILDRESS: Are there any questions from
the audience attending tonight on this zoning
variation request?
(No responses.)
MR. CHILDRESS: Because it's in common with
the other ones that we have had in the Village
before largely with the 8-foot taller security
fences, most of the parking lot areas enclosed to
have a safe one-way traffic flow, for the most part
in and out of the traffic or in out of the site,
and screening of any of the mechanical type
equipment that often also acts as a noise dampen
or like a noise sound wall along the highway or
something in a lot of these also to reduce
regional noise in a given area like that besides
esthetically coordinating with the Village's
requirements to make it, you know, attractive to
the community and hopefully get more tenants and
things in the industrial park which keeps us as a
community living and growing, and supporting
everybody in the regional area too so.
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Are there any community or, Bryan, do
you have any comments from engineering?
MR. KOZOR: Nobody from the public reached out
regarding the hearing. There were no comments or
concerns. All of the easement waivers are approved
pending Village Board approval, and the Fire
District worked closely with the engineers to
make sure site access was approved.
MR. CHILDRESS: Thank you.
MR. BOOKLER: One other question.
MR. CHILDRESS: Yes.
MR. BOOKLER: How many more data centers do
you have slighted for the next six months to a
year?
THE COURT REPORTER: Is that Ryan or?
(Chorus of yes and laughter.)
MR. BOOKLER: If you can share that. If you.
can share that.
MR. CARDWELL: Yes. I think it would be safe
to say that both Jaime's firm and mine are working
with people who are actively looking for additional
properties and pieces of land to continue on.
MR. BOOKLER: I am just wondering if it
might be something where the Village should
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consider a specific ordinance for data center
submissions because we handle these things kind
of, it seems like it's pretty cut and dry as to
what they need in order to have them. It may be
worth working with the Village's team to have a
specific ordinance, so that way these guys don't
have to waste their time coming here requesting a
variance for something that they need to make the
thing go anyway.
MR. CHILDRESS: A lot of the other big picture
things, if I recall, there's a new zoning ordinance
that's being or there's zoning consultants for the
Village that have been working on an update to the
ordinance for the last two or three years. They're
getting very close to publishing it, but it's still
going through more reviews.
It also has midsections added for like
the new part of the industrial park that has like
where Microsoft, and some of those other newer
buildings that might match a data center look to
them for some of their support facilities.
So there are new sections they are
adding into the code, and they will be -- it will
eventually be in hard copy as well as in an on-line
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format whenever the last revisions get worked
through, but, you know, by all means if there's
any comments or concerns, raise it to the Village
staff so they will get it, reach out to the
Village.
MR. LATROFA: Yes. Just thinking, you know,
we've handled now three of these. These guys come
through. They say the same thing. There is not
much bend that they can give. They are not --
Kind of the intent of our Board is to protect the
neighborhood. These guys are in the industrial
park. It might be better just to flatten the
process.
Get it clear. So, you know, they have
an industry standard. Have our ordinance match the
industry standard. That way they can go to their
clients and we can get more data centers in here,
which is more money for the Village. That is all I
am thinking.
I know this isn't the right place for
it, but just kind of putting it out there.
MR. CHILDRESS: A lot of the issues with the
fencing and the security, they are in the
ordinances even for corner properties at homes
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which are a common thing that we often had.
And this, with the fence extending beyond or beyond
the nearest front corner of the property or into
the front building setback, that's in the current,
the ordinance being updated or the guide book
manuals as well as --
MR. LATROFA: Sure.
MR. CHILDRESS: -- previous.
MR. LATROFA: Sure.
MR. CHILDRESS: But anything that improves
process or whatever or is check sheet guidance
to the developer and architectural team makes
the review easier, which also makes any time in
front of the Planning Commission or in front of
the Zoning Board of Appeals, and in front of the
Village staff or other approval bodies.
MR. LATROFA: Sure.
MR. CHILDRESS: Where there's crossing
jurisdictions, I guess. It all makes it easier.
MR. LATROFA: Yep.
MR. CHILDRESS: Is there any other comments
from Board Members or anyone in the audience
attending?
(No response.)
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MR. CHILDRESS: Could we have a voice vote
then or could we have a motion first.
MR. GLIMCO: Second.
Are you making a motion?
MR. DAMPTZ: No, I didn't make a motion.
Go ahead someone else.
MR. CHILDRESS: Motion for a voice vote?
MR. LATROFA: Motion --
MR. GLIMCO: Second --
MR. DAMPTZ: Second --
MR. CHILDRESS: All in favor?
MR. KOZOR: Don, who was first and who was
second?
MR. CHILDRESS: Donato was first and Tony and
Jacob --
MR. DAMPTZ: Jacob.
MR. CHILDRESS: And Jacob was second. Thank
you.
All in favor. And that is the vote for
the three variance requests as written --
MR. LATROFA: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: -- in the document by the
Village.
Just so I can get it for meeting
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minutes. Steve, how do you vote?
MR. RAWLEIGH: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: And Roberto?
MR. SERRANO JR.: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: And Gary?
MR. SPRAGG: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: Ryan?
MR. BOOKLER: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: I'm yes.
MR. LATROFA: Also yes.
MR. DAMPTZ, JR., Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: And Jacob?
MR. GLIMCO: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: I will go ahead and put
what is typically meeting minutes or finding of
fact together.
Bryan from Village staff will be putting
together meeting minutes and these two documents
will go and advise the Village Board.
The next Village Board meeting, Bryan,
is that the first Tuesday in --
MR. DAMPTZ JR.: Third Tuesday.
MR. CHILDRESS: Is there a third Tuesday
meeting?
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MR. KOZOR: The Board -- it wasn't on the
calendar, but it should be the second and fourth
Tuesday. So it should be the 22nd.
MR. CHILDRESS: Okay. If you could, please,
plan to attend the Village meeting, but call ahead
also to confirm with the Village Clerk that it will
be on the Agenda for that night.
MR. CARDWELL: Okay.
MR. CHILDRESS: Then if you could please plan
to attend the Board Meeting if it is on the 22nd or
whenever the next following meeting. The schedule
is usually on the Village website.
MR. DAMPTZ JR.: It is the 22nd.
MR. CHILDRESS: Thank you.
But, if you can, please plan to attend
and make sure that you're on the docket for that
night. And Village will have final -- the Board
members will have final say so and approval or
denial of any permit recommendation. What our
body puts together is advisory in nature to the
Village Board.
And once if they vote in the
affirmative, then you can coordinate thereafter
with or the Mayor will direct you or ask you that
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you can refer you to coordinate with the Village
staff for obtaining any permits for wherever you
need to be in your process next.
MR. PUTNAM: Okay.
MR. CARDWELL: Yes.
MR. CHILDRESS: You know, for working these
into the permit.
MR. PUTNAM: Yes, understood.
MR. CARDWELL: Thank you very much for your
time this evening.
MR. CHILDRESS:
tonight.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for coming out
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MR. PUTNAM: Thank you.
MR. CHILDRESS: Okay. And the well presented
documents.
MR. CARDWELL: Thank you.
MR. CHILDRESS: I will go ahead and adjourn or
do we have a motion?
MR. DAMPTZ JR.: Motion to adjourn. Second.
MR. GLIMCO: Second --
MR. LATROFA: I'll second it.
MR. CHILDRESS: It was made by Tony and
Donato. Thank you all for coming out.
MEETING ADJOURNED
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STATE OF ILLINOIS)
COUNTY OF DU PAGE)
I, BARBARA ANTHONY, Certified Shorthand
Reporter, within and for the County of DuPage and
State of Illinois, do hereby certify that I
stenographically recorded the proceedings via Zoom
video/telephoneconference by consent of all
participants in the aforementioned matter; that the
foregoing was reduced to typewriting via computer
aided transcription under my personal direction and
supervision; and that the foregoing is a true and
accurate transcript of the proceedings had.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set
my hand this 18th day of February, A.D., 2022.
Barbara Anthony, CSR, RPR
CSR No. 084-003185
Expires May 31, 2023
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