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Home My WebLink AboutJPZ - 06/01/2004 - REGULATIONS FOR BOATS & RVS ELK GROVE VILLAGE JPZ CO TT MEETING JUNE 1, 0 JPZ Members Present: Bart Dill, Village Trustee, Chairperson Nancy Czarnik, Village Trustee Sam Lissner, Village Trustee Staff: George Knickerbocker, Village Attorney Al Boffice, Director, E & CD Steve Trudan, Asst. Director, CD REGULATIONS FOR BOATS AND RV'S Chairman Dill called the meeting to order and explained that he would be making a proposal to the committee. He further explained that the night's proceedings would be unlike the previous two meetings in that there would be no interaction with the audience since the fact-finding segment of the process had been concluded. Chairman Dill stated that as a result of surveys, research, and input from residents he felt there was a need to introduce some restrictions designed to control the parking and storage of large boats and RV's. Without such regulations, anyone is permitted to park and store absolutely anything on their residential lot irrespective of size or weight. He added that he believes that there are some vehicles that are overwhelming because of their size, and are out of place in the residential areas. Chairman Dill then stated that it was not intended to proposed regulations which would disallow the parking of commercial vehicles, pop-up type campers on a single axle, small boats on single axle trailers, automobiles, minivans, SUV's and pickup trucks. He concluded his opening statement by proposing the following: 1. That the parking and storage of oversized motorized recreational vehicles be prohibited outdoors within the residentially zoned districts. Such motorized recreational vehicles may be temporarily parked on an approved paved surface in the front yard within the residential area for a period not to exceed 72 hours for the purpose of loading, unloading, cleaning and maintenance. 2. That tow-type vehicles and boats be permitted outdoors, however are subject to the following conditions: a. Such vehicles are limited to a single axle design. b. The overall length of the vehicle, including the tongue of the trailer and the furthermost projection of the trailer and vehicle being towed, not exceed a length of twenty-five feet (25). The overall height shall not exceed eight feet (8) and the overall width shall not exceed nine feet (9). c. That no portion of any such vehicle be permitted to overhang or block the public sidewalk. Trustee Lissner asked if the proposed regulations would also regulate commercial vehicles. Chairman Dill explained that they would not. Trustee Czarnik asked why the trailers were limited to a single axle. Mr. Boffice explained that there was a correlation between the number of axles and the size of the vehicle being towed. Mr. Boffice also explained that the proposed length limit of twenty-five feet correlates with the standard front yard setback as well as a standard driveway length throughout the Village. Trustee Czarnik asked how the 72 hour loading allowance would be enforced and asked for clarification of the proposal to prohibit the blocking of the public sidewalk. Mr. Boffice stated that the 72-hour loading allowance would really fall into what he called an honor system that would be enforced on a complaint basis. He also explained that the concept of parking a vehicle that is being used on a daily basis differs from storing a vehicle that is not moved for extended periods of time with respect to the effect each has on the neighborhood. Mr. Knickerbocker explained that it would be possible for someone to request a variation if a hardship could be demonstrated. Trustee Lissner asked if permits would be issued for permitted vehicles. Mr. Boffice explained that he did not feel permits would be necessary since all existing and new vehicles would be subject to the same regulations. Trustee Lissner asked if the Zoning Ordinance had regulations that dealt with obstruction to vision. Mr. Boffice explained the sight line triangles that were defined and regulated at the intersections of driveways and sidewalks. Chairman Dill stated that he received a complaint from a resident who said his neighbor was storing an RV for someone that did not reside in that home. Trustee Czarnik stated that over the years she received many comments from residents that were both for and against allowing boats and RV's on residential driveways. She added that she also received a complaint that someone was storing a boat for someone else. Mr. Boffice pointed out that there were several subdivisions within the Village that had associations that prohibited outdoor parking of any boats or RV's. Trustee Lissner stated that he felt that commercial vehicles should also be required to meet the proposed size limitations. Mr. Boffice stated that commercial vehicles were not part of the surveys or studies obtained for the purpose of the proceedings and emphasized that there is a difference between vehicles being parked versus stored. Trustee Lissner stated that all vehicles not meeting the proposed size limitations should be prohibited. Mr. Knickerbocker stated that some communities also limit the number of boats and RV's even when they meet the size limitations. Chairman Dill asked what the consensus of the committee would be. Trustee Lissner stated that he felt all vehicles should be required to meet the proposed criteria. Trustee Czarnik stated that the Committee should recommend the proposed regulations pertaining to boats and RV's only and that further research should be done regarding commercial vehicles for consideration at a later date. By a two to one vote (Chairman Dill and Trustee Lissner ayes, Trustee Czarnik nay), the Committee reached a decision to recommend to the Mayor and Board of Trustees that the Village adopt the restrictions proposed to regulate boats and RV's, but to include vehicles of all types to be so regulated, not just boats and RV's. The meeting was adjourned at 8:00 P.M. C: Mayor and Board of Trustees, Plan Commission Chairman, Village Clerk, Village Manager, Assistant Village Manager, Assistant to the Village Manager, Director of Engineering & Community Development, Village Attorney May, '04 REGULATION OF OVERSIZED RECREATIONAL VEHICLES As a result of the March 1, 2004 survey of the types of oversized recreational vehicles and boats that are currently parked within the Village, and the Northwest Municipal Conference Survey that identified the manner in which other communities regulate those types of vehicles, I believe that there is a need for the regulation of large motor homes, large boats and large non-motorized trailers within Elk Grove Village. My belief is based upon the probable reality that without such regulations, anyone is permitted to park and store absolutely anything on their residential lot, irrespective of size or weight. 1 further believe that there are some vehicles, which are overwhelming because of their size, and are out of place in the residential areas. It is not intended to propose regulations which would disallow the parking of commercial vehicles, pop-up type campers on a single axle, small boats on single axle trailers, automobiles, minivans, SUVs and pickup trucks. Included, are small travel trailers on single axles, small non-motorized single axle trailers and garbage dumpsters when associated with construction activities. On the other hand, I feel duty bound to propose the regulation of oversized motor homes, boats, and large work and transportation trailers that are inconsistent with the stated purposes of the Village's zoning regulations which insure that: • Adequate light, clean air and safety from fire and other dangers may be secured. • The taxable value of land and buildings throughout the municipality may be preserved. • The public health, safety, comfort, and welfare may otherwise be promoted. Towards those ends, the following is proposed: 1. That the parking and storage of oversized motorized recreational vehicles be prohibited outdoors within the residentially zoned districts. Such motorized recreational vehicles may be temporarily parked on an approved paved surface in the front yard within the residential area for a period not to exceed 72 hours for the purpose of loading, unloading, cleaning and maintenance. 2. That tow-type vehicles, and boats be permitted outdoors, however are subject to the following conditions: a. Such vehicles are limited to a single axle design. b. The overall length of the vehicle, including the tongue of the trailer and the furthermost projection of the trailer and vehicle being towed, not exceed a length of twenty-five feet (25). The overall height shall not exceed eight feet (8) and the overall width shall not exceed nine feet (9). c. That no portion of any such vehicle be permitted to overhang or block the public sidewalk. 1 suggest that the aforementioned regulations become effective on January 1. 2005 to afford owners of such vehicles an opportunity to locate acceptable storage areas for their units. Bart K. Dill, Chairman JPZ Committee JPZ MEETING 6-1-2004 Andy Kalve 600 Maple Lane Tony Hicks 280 Peach Tree Lane Lee Bor ersen 943 Elmwood Lane Ronald E. Petersen 73 Shelley Court Nancy & Stan Munson 116 Shadywood Lane Carmen & Pat Domanico 261 Peach Tree Lane Nick Scavo 1631 Gibson Drive Tom Rodgers 314 Wellington Avenue Tony Dam tz Jr. 290 Edgeware Chris Prochno 1268 Leeds Lane Mike Hay 715 Arizona Pass Terry & Frank Palmerino 1082 Carswell Jeffrey Snyder 1901 Albany Court Paul Petzold 1246 Dover HenryV. Balmes 207 Tower Lane Jim P do 1001 Tennessee Lane Diane Gara 1205 S 6n dale Lane Mike Wo'tak 830 Madison Court Cherry & Ron Huntowski 72 Grange Greg & Ina Grudzien 1028 Alabama Drive Nick Olsen 522 Bianco Drive Sven Franzen 523 Willow Lane Donna Fries 584 Corrinthia Drive Daniel Fries 584 Corrinthia Drive Robert Michaels 796 Love Roy Bezdicek 1529 Home Circle Bruce Marsh 1532 Home Circle Van & Jill Wintz 1220 Carswell Avenue Paula Ford 370 Bianco Drive Carol Tice 958 Borman Court Bob Larson 991 Borman Court Don Kordas 966 Borman Court Larry & Barb Diamond 1277 Maple Court Charlie Mitchell 630 Walnut Lane Tom Burke 531 Magnolia Lane Joe Lullo 1229 Maple Lane Judy Havlik 111 Wildwood Road Lee Havlik 111 Wildwood Road Rita Zielinski 1267 Wildwood Road JPZ MEETING ATTENDEES Name Address 1. Andy Kalve 2. Tony Hicks 3. David Surdey 1294 Parker Place 4. Frank LaPlaca 1296 Parker Place 5. Larry Hunt 1004 Carpenter Court 6. Larry& Barb Diamond 7. Camen & Pat Domenico 8. Ron Lanser 9. Frank Palmissano 10. Roger Munoz 11. Thomas Magill 30 Braemer Drive 12. Robert Michaels 796 Love Street 13. Dan Fries 584 Corrinthia Drive 14. Donna Fries 584 Corrinthia Drive 15. Rita ZWinski 267 Wildwood Road 16. Nancy Felde 1835 Hawk Lane 17. Bill Felde 1835 Hawk Lane 18. Stan Munson 19. Debra Vinson 411 Perrie Drive #6 20. Kathy Munson 21. Nancy Munson 22. Ina & Greg Grudzien 23. Robert Larson 991 Borman Court 24. Sven Franzen 25. Barbara K. Zook 14 Ridgewood Road 26. Hollis Bacagi 27. Harry E. Palmer 207 Tower Lane 28. Ingrid & George O'Hern 80 Clearmont Drive 29. Everett Kuehlman 456 30. Ron & Cheryl Huntowski 72 Grange Road 31. Roberta Johnson 1269 Diane Lane 32. Leonardo Pena 618 Charing Cross Road 33. Pat Feichter 660 Stanford Circle 34. Chris Prochno 1268 Leeds Lane 35. Tom Bold 1417 Worden Way 36. Charles Mitchell 630 Walnut Lane 37. Tom Burke 531 magnolia 38. Joe Lullo 1229 Maple Lane 39. Marty& Darlene Chakeen 40. Ronald Hess 41. Kevin Gara 42. Roy Bezdicek 43. Bruce Marsa 44. Celeste Pydo 1001 Tennessee Lane 45. Jim Pydo 1001 Tennessee Lane 46. Debi Lignowski 1821 Orleans Court 47. John Lignowski 1821 Orleans Court 48. Paula Ford 370 Bianco Drive 49. Judy Havlik 111 Wildwood Road 50. Richard Klima 306 Dorchester Lane 51. Tom Rodgers 314 Wellington Avenue 52. Scott Allen 809 Cutter Lane 53. Van Wintz 1220 Carswell Avenue ATTENDANCE SHEET— JPZ MEETING APRIL 20, 2004 Emil Schiavo 68 Grange Bill& Marilyn Pilk 1086 Elmwood Andy Kalve 600 Maple Tony Hicks 270 Peachtree Lee Borgersen 943 Elmwood Steve Wiet 1363 Carlisle Carol &Dison Tice 958 Borman Robert Larson 991 Borman Stan & Nancy Munson 116 Shadywood Frank Palmissano 1087 Carswell Larry & Barb Diamond 1277 Maple Charles Mitchell 630 Walnut Carmen & Pat Domanico 261 Peachtree Ronald E. Petersen 73 Shelly Paul Petzold 1246 Dover Roberta Johnson 1269 Diane Mike Boyd 1272 Diane Sven Franzen 523 Willow Marty& Darlene Chakeen 1270 Aspen Steve Kane 1035 Carswell Van & Jill Wintz 1220 Carswell Jeffrey Snyder 1901 Albany Vi & Richard Gorham 910 Lonsdale George & Ingrid O'Hern 80 Clearmont Harry Balmes 207 Tower Joanne & Chris Meyers 1217 Hemlock Gregory& Ina Grudzien 1028 Alabama Ariel Alvarez 949 Arkansas August Sievers 515 Brynhaven Everitt Kuehlman 456 Lilac Bob Stevens 15581daho Ron Mrofcza 1118 Cypress Phil Dance 936 Hartford Kevin & Diane Gara 1205 Springdale Ron Hess 208 Clearmont Mike Pietrandoni 232 Tanglewood Pat Swift 551 Dogwood Tom & Barbara Burke 531 Magnolia Joe & Cindy Lullo 1229 Maple Mr. & Mrs. Huntowski 72 Grange Mr. & Mrs. Morris 35 Grassmere Larry Rich 1706 Biestrfield Chris & Alex Prochno 1268 Leeds Roy Bezdicek 1529 Home Bruce Marsh 1532 Home Jim Pydo 1001 Tennessee Chuck Micholson 1561 Von Braun Ron & Collette Lanser 1096 Gloria Michael& Margaret Hay 715 Arizona Ken Mack 668 Middlebury Steve Peesel 241 Laurel Josh Lignowski 1821 Orleans Lauane & Jeanne Addis 1819 Orleans Stanley Adams 1860 Fox Run Radisa Sandic 936 Arkansas Pat Feichter 660 Stanford