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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLAN COMMISSION - 04/06/1976 - PARK DISTRICT AGREEMENT r • MINUTES ELK GROVE VILLAGE PLAN COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING April 6, 1976 The special meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order at 8:29 P.M. on Tuesday, April 6, 1976 in the Staff Conference Room of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington Avenue. MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT: Alvin Krasnow Leah Cummins Stanley Klyber William Shannon Edward Hauser STAFF PRESENT: Thomas Hamilton, Thomas Rettenbacher, Chm. Pro Tempore Building Commissioner William Jacobson Robert Mullen, William Wesley (9:30) Administrative Intern CENTEX STAFF PRESENT Steve Bilheimer Rick Burton Mike Ives Tom McCabe Park Agreement Bilheimer explained that Centex and the Park District had agreed on a 13 net acre site as shown on the tentative plat of Section 22 - Winston Grove (dated 4/5/76) . This parcel is located west of the Fire Station Site and butting the Public Works Site. Access is available from the extension of Biesterfield Road, Nebraska Drive, and Wisconsin Lane. Centex also included those sites in the parcel that had been a concern of the Commission (3/22/76) and which once would have been lots for single family homes . Bilheimer further added that the buffer, called for to slow down easy access from Schaumburg, had been built, that Centex had received official acceptance of the Public Works site, as well as provisional acceptance of the Well Site subject to minor changes . Street Configuration 0 Rettenbacher explained that he had met with the Fire Chief, and that Captain Henrici had stated that he had been given a layout and applied the street names as shown. Hamilton stated that he felt written input was needed from the Fire Department. The Department's concern seemed to be one of house numbering in relation to emergency response time. The Commission made recommendations concerning the changing of street names to avoid confusion. They are: Michigan Lane becomes Nebraska Drive Minnesota Drive becomes Indiana Lane Arkansas Drive becomes Virginia Drive Mississippi Lane becomes Kentucky Lane South 1/2 of Wisconsin Lane becomes Missouri Drive Special Plan Commission Meeting - 2 - April 6 , 1976 Rettenbacher informed the Commission that N-S streets were generally called lanes and E-W streets were drives . Hamilton reiterated his concern regarding cooperation between the Plan Commission and the Fire Department, expressing his desire to meet with the Department at any time. He asked that the Department report to the Commission if the above-mentioned recommendations posed numbering or response time problems . The problem of renaming courts after streets was brought up. Ives stated that all problems could be solved by naming the longest cul-de-sac after the street it is attached to. (e.g. Bismark Court becomes Wisconsin Court.) Other recommendations were: Richmond Court becomes Virginia Court Joplin Circle becomes Missouri Circle Mobile Circle becomes Alabama Circle Orleans Court becomes Louisiana Court Memphis Circle becomes Tennessee Circle Jackson Circle becomes Kentucky Circle Bismark Court becomes Wisconsin Court Omaha Court becomes Nebraska Court Hamilton stated that these recommendations would cure problems of incon- sistency and citizen confusion and asked Mullen to change maps accordingly, and submit it to the Fire Chief. Bilheimer stated that Centex had also conformed to the Building Department specifications of 10' rear yard easements , and 7.5 side yard easements . Commercial areas were then discussed. Hauser said that the commercial areas seemed to be logical extensions of what should be, noting the set- back requirements for B-3 zoning. Hamilton stated that Nebraska Drive angled beforeit reached the extension of Biesterfield Road (as shown on sheet #1 of Tentative Plat of 4/5/76) . He asked if this would necessarily mean that Biesterfield won' t be straight. Ives replied that it necessarily didn' t, stating that if the R-5 area was developed as proposed , then Biesterfield could take a small curve and then straighten out farther West. In terms of soil conditions , Ives felt that Biesterfield could extend straight West, but that an additional problem could be encountered. Biesterfield Road extends into Schaumburg, and securing Schaumburg's guarantee for services for the half-street dedication could be difficult. Rettenbacher asked about the provisions for Block 1 , Lot 1 , as shown on the 4/5/76 Plat. Ives stated that R-3 zoning could be secured, adding that it will be part of the legal description for Section 22. Hamilton asked why Biesterfield Road was half dedicated. He wondered why all of Biesterfield wasn' t in Section 22. Rettenbacher asked if 1/2 of Biesterfield was to be built with Section 22, and 1/2 with the proposed R-5 section. Bilheimer replied that Centex would prefer to put it in 1/2 at a time, adding that the half street would be 20 feet which could accommodate two moving lanes . Ives commented that a normal pad was 28 feet. Possible curb and gutter problems , caused by Biesterfield's nebulous width, caused Centex' reluctance to put in the full 40 feet. He conceded .by saying that Biesterfield is not expected to be heavily travelled. Hauser felt the curb and gutter argument should be tempered by the fact that the curb and gutters had to go in eventually anyway. Rettenbacher added that the curb and gutter would stabilize the street , and asked what would Special Plan Commission Meeting - 3 - April 6, 1976 happen if completion took six years. Hauser asked for an interpretation of Biesterfield Road beyond Meacham Road. Rettenbacher stated that it would be a residential collector street, required to be 40' . Hamilton stated that dedication lAn.e should be moved over into the R-5 area so that the street could be built. Bilheimer stated that the plat would be amended, that the sites for Public Works and the Fire Department were the main access concerns right now, and that construction would be timed with road use. Rettenbacher stated that the Commission could recommend to the Village Board an 80 foot width, and that if the Village Board wanted 100 feet, they would ask for it. Bilheimer stated the 100 foot width was not needed, and felt that a decision should be made by the Commission without delay. Hamilton felt that a decision could be made by default, explaining that if the proposal goes to the Village Board stating an 80 foot width, then non-acceptance of that proposal would constitute a decision to prevent Biesterfield from becoming a thoroughfare. Klyber replied that the Village Board did not seem to want it as a thoroughfare. Hamilton replied that the Village Board seemed to favor an interchange of 1-90 from Biesterfield, and that a thoroughfare would not be built if 100 feet was not specified. Klyber replied that the interchange was not needed. Hamilton answered that problems of access to Alexian Brothers Medical Center must be considered, in light of his belief that there will be no interchange at Thorndale Avenue. Hamilton and Rettenbacher then entered into a discussion of Landmeier being built with an 80 foot width, which eventually caused numerous problems . Hauser stated that there was no access problem, and Klyber, Bilheimer, and Jacobson agreed . Hauser further stated that if an entrance to the Forest Preserve Area was obtained, the interchange would not be needed. Hamilton said that he believed there were to be four entrances - 2 on the North and 2 on the South - to serve both the Lake and the Ski Hill . Hauser felt it•was a decision of the Village Board. Hamilton sought a 90 foot compromise. Bilheimer stated that the Board should make its own decision. Hamilton proposed the recommen- dation state 100 feet , rationalizing that the Village Board would cut it if they wanted to. He asked if anyone had knowledge of any action concerning the Interchange on the part of the Federal Government. McCabe felt that the delay would be too great. Bilheimer stated that Biesterfield was to be 100 feet to Meacham, and 80 feet from Meacham on. Klyber moved to submit it at 80 feet. Jacobson seconded. Hamilton sought to add the statement that an 80 foot right-of-way would preclude Biesterfield from becoming a major arterial and that it would become a residential collector. All present voted "Aye". Hauser asked if sidewalks on Biesterfield were to be laid on both sides of the street. Rettenbacher stated that it was not. Rettenbacher asked about the dedication of Meacham Road. There appeared to be a void between Cindy Lane and Virginia Drive. He also asked about the continuation of Virginia Drive to Meacham Road. Ives answered that it was proposed as R.O.W. for the Elgin - O' Hare Expressway. Bilheimer stated that there will be a dedication amendment entered into the legal definition of Section 22, dedicating the entire access way to Meacham, and building Virginia Road to meet and cross the existing Meacham Road. Rettenbacher stated that a greater dedication for the R.O.W. than 50' was called for, adding that 120 feet was needed for Meacham Road south of Nerge. Ives stated that Centex was in possession Special Plan Commission Meeting - 4 - April 6, 1976 of a letter from the County Department of Highways stating that 50 feet was an acceptable width. Bilheimer felt that if the County approved , then 50 feet should be seen as acceptable. Hamilton felt that the important criterion to be considered was what is best for the Village. Wesley felt that 120 feet would be needed on all of Meacham Road, stating that the charts signified 50 feet for one side, and 65 feet on the other. Ives answered that the intersection from the center line of Meacham was equal to 60 feet but that Meacham Road drastically trun- cated as it proceeded north. The location of Meacham Road, as shown on the plat, was determined from information derived from the County, Ives stated. Burton added that the Department of Transportation knew of the 110 foot width and approved of it. He emphasized that the widths were not parallel to the center line, pointing out that a 65.82 foot width existed slightly north of the Meacham - Nerge intersection. He also stated that north of Nerge on Meacham was County jurisdiction, and south of Nerge was state jurisdiction. Wesley asked if there was any way to get 60 feet on both sides , and whether the State could build a 110 foot road. Ives replied that the situation existed because of the Elgin - O'Hare, and that even if you put a 70 foot width on one side, it still wouldn' t be possible. Rettenbacher stated that the State could build the 110 foot road. Wesley asked if the Village was accepting the 4.3 acre park as shown on the plat. Hauser said that a Mr. Lindley, engineering consultant for the Park District, would meet with the Public Works Director to discuss any possible soil or drainage problems. He also stated that no special maintenance equipment would berneeded. Bilheimer agreed to this , stating that Centex would grade and seed it. Wesley asked Rettenbacher if Village ordinances showed a requirement on the part of the developer. to finish detention. Rettenbacher informed him that the Engineering Department would have to be consulted. Wesley felt that this requirement should be known now, calling the present condition of the Park a swamp. Hauser felt that input was needed from the Lindley - Ciaglia, and Lindley - Centex negotiations. Klyber moved that the Plan Commission approve the tentative Plat of Section 22 (Sheet 1 dated 4/5/76, Sheets 2 & 3 dated 4/6/76) , in accordance with these provisions : (1) That Mr. Lindley meet with Don Ciaglia concerning the condition of the parcels considered as dedicated parks . (2) That the street configuration and names recommended by the Commission be checked with Chief Henrici , and that he be asked to submit written input to the Commission on this matter. (3) That a full dedication of Biesterfield Road from Meacham Road to the rear of Lot I in Block 1 (4/5/76 Plat) be included in Section 22. (4) That the required 120 foot R.O.W. for Meacham Road will be shown on the final plat. Krasnow seconded. All but Wesley voted "Aye". Wesley abstained. Klyber moved for adjournment. Jacobson seconded. All present voted "Aye". The meeting adjourned at 10:07 P.M. Su mitted by: n 711;2 � (4/9/76) Robert E. Mullen, Jr. REM:ms Administrative Intern