HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLAN COMMISSION - 12/13/1978 - VILLAGE ON THE LAKE DOCKET 78-10 Minutes
Elk Grove Village Plan Commission
December 13, 1978
The regular meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by
Acting Chairman Hauser at 8: 15 p.m. on Wednesday, December 13, 1978
in the Council Chamber of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington
Avenue.
MEMBERS PRESENT: STAFF PRESENT:
Edward Hauser, Acting Chairman Gary Parrin,
Leah Cummins , Secretary Assistant Village Manager
John Glass Thomas Rettenbacher,
George Mullen Building Commissioner
James Petri Kenneth Schuster,
Orrin Stangeland Acting Village Engineer
MEMBERS ABSENT: Charles Henrici ,
None Deputy Fire Chief
Docket 78-10: Proposed Revision to the Planned Unit
Development located at the Village on the Lake
The Plan Commission, acting as a Zoning Commission, conducted a
public hearing on the petition of Urban Development Company for an
amendment to the preliminary land use and zoning plat, and special use
permit in order to revise a site plan for the construction of 144 manor
homes in lieu of three 5-story buildings with 282 proposed units . The
11 .6 acre parcel is located at the northeast corner of Biesterfield
Road and Leicester Road. Jeffrey Rochman, Maurice Wallack, Robert
Gorski , Richard Burton, Michael Levin, Paul Jensen, Marvin Richman,
Richard Hitchcock and Robert Solomon were present representing United
Development Company and Urban Investment and Development Company.
Richman began the presentation by noting that the entire 287 acres
were zoned for a Planned Unit Development in 1968. Since 1969, the
development plans for Village on the Lake were amended three times
(1969, 1971 and 1973) due to changing market conditions . These same
conditions again necessitated a change.
There are currently 442 condominiums in the existing five buildings .
Their original timetable included all eight buildings to be built by
1973 with a total of 724 units . It took eight years (1969-1977) to sell
the units in the existing five buildings due to lack of market demand
for condominiums . The 11 .6 acre parcel remained vacant not only because
of the market conditions , but also because it took fifteen months for
in-house studies and consultant reports to develop plans for the best
use of the property.
Richman continued by noting that the cost to reproduce the condominium
buildings would be greater than the market demand for condominiums. United
Development Company was only selling 50 units per year in the existing
buildings . They project that it would take six years to sell new con-
dominium units . Not only would they have to rent the units not sold,
but the rental units would have a detrimental effect on selling the
condominium units .
Plan Commission Minutes - 2 - December 13, 1978
Docket 78-10 (continued)
United Development Company considered single family homes , townhouses ,
garden apartments and midrise buildings , with either sale of the units ,
renting the units or obtaining Federal subsidies for the units. They
concluded that manor homes would not only be the most marketable type
of unit, but manor homes would also be in the best interest of the
Village and best use of the property.
The petitioners then had a slide presentation of similar types of
developments with Tudor elevations . The developments included The
Timbers (Palos) , Country Club Village (Oak Hills) , Briar Cliff Manor
(Wheaton) and Lexington Village (Schaumburg) . Their proposal is for
4 and 8 unit buildings with $1 ,750 - $2,000 spent for landscaping each
unit.
Mullen began the questioning by asking how the petitioners will
handle parking, street widths and maintenance of the streets . The
petitioner responded that they not only meet Village Ordinances by
providing one parking stall in the garage and one on the driveway,
but also provide 22 additional guest parking stalls. There would be
an adverse impact on the development if they had to provide 72 stalls
to conform to the Police Department recommendation. The streets will
meet Village construction standards , but will be 24 feet in width rather
than 28 feet. An Association will maintain the private streets .
Stangeland asked whether the market conditions will be changing
again. In response, the developers noted that the possibility does exist,
that is why they are anxious to begin building. The 144 manor homes
would be sold within 18 months at a selling price in the low to mid
$70,000 range.
Cummins noted that sidewalks and lighting are not on the plan.
The petitioner confirmed that there will be no sidewalks for the
development, but they will meet Village Codes for lighting. If they
have sufficient funds, more decorative light poles will be used.
Cummins added that the Village Board and the Plan Commission are not
fond of private streets. The developer acknowledged that he knew
there, was some sentiment against private streets .
Petri concurred with a previous comment by Cummins that the 22
additional parking stalls are totally inadequate and the plans should
be redesigned.
Next, Petri asked how the manor homes will be separated from the
recreational facilities at the Village on the Lake and whether they
propose any facilities in the proposed development. The petitioners
noted that their buyer profile reflects that elevations and landscaping
amenities make the project marketable. Additional recreational
facilities will not be needed, and if so, the Park District sites
are available to them. They also added that the Village on the Lake
is private property and their recreational facilities are not available
to the manor homes.
Storm detention requirements and sanitary sewer line capacity were
also brought up by Petri . The project engineer said that Lake Cosman
has more than adequate capacity for storm water. In addition, the
8 inch sanitary sewer line on Gloucester or the 12 inch sanitary sewer
line serving Alexian Brothers Medical Center both have adequate capacity
for their estimated sanitary sewage flows.
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Docket 78-10 (continued)
It was pointed out by Glass that the property line for the 11 .6 acre
parcel goes through the existing tennis courts . The petitioner had
intended to deed this portion of their property to the Village on the
Lake Association. Also in response to a question from Glass , it was
noted that exterior maintenance of the buildings , utilities and streets
will be the responsibility of an Association. The Manor Home Association
would take over their proposed development after two years or after the
sale of 75 percent of the units. At a request from Glass , United
Development Company will submit an Association budget after it is
prepared.
Glass continued by noting that the "cul-de-sac" sections of the
development and the 24 foot wide private street do not provide for
proper vehicle traffic flow, turnaround capability or additional parking
stalls. When he questioned the petitioners about screening between
the manor homes 35 feet from the Village on the Lake tennis courts,
the petitioner responded that the proposed 36 inch high screening
could be increased in height.
Hauser addressed the need for additional recreational facilities .
He noted that in the original planned unit development agreement, the
developer had stated that a recreational area would be provided for
the parcel . Now, Hauser noted that it appeared that the petitioner
did not wish to provide the recreational area that was agreed to when
the planned unit development was originally proposed. The developer
reiterated that their buyer profile reflects a 40 - 50 year age group
with an estimated lifestyle which would make recreational facilities
burdensome to the Association. Recreational facilities would be at
their disposal through the local Park District.
Hauser concluded by requesting the petitioner to submit a report
on the effect of the proposed plan to the physical development, tax
base and the economic well-being of the Village pursuant to Section
4.52 of the Zoning Ordinance.
The developer was advised by Cummins that sidewalks are required
on Leicester and Biesterfield Roads .
Glass asked if the Association would have storage available for
equipment or a facility for Association meetings. In response, the
developer said maintenance will be performed by outside contractors
and the Association would have to find a meeting facility offsite.
Deputy Chief Henrici advised the Commission that the proposed
private street should be designated a fire lane which would prohibit
parking on the street.
The following is a synopsis of comments presented to the Plan
Commission from the audience:
- Trespass problems will occur due to residents from the manor
homes attempting to use the Village on the Lake recreational
facilities.
- The plan is not in compliance with open space requirements .
- There are inadequate provisions for guest parking. The
overflow parking will use Village on the Lake parking stalls .
- No recreational facilities for the proposed development.
- The developer should not be permitted to depart from the
original planned unit development concept. When they bought
condominiums, they also bought the original site plan which
reflects eight buildings .
- The Village on the Lake would not have sufficient recreational
facilities to serve the manor homes .
Plan Commission Minutes - 4 - December 13, 1968
Docket 78-10 (continued)
- The manor home concept is not acceptable.
- The manor homes destroy the open space and cause crowded
conditions .
- There is a market for condominiums, contrary to the statements
of the developer.
- Private streets and utilities are a heavy burden to any
Association.
- The recreational facilities which United Development Company
said would not be attractive to buyers are really a necessity.
- The developer is reneging on their commitment to build eight
buildings .
- There will be 1 ,000 angry residents if the development, as
proposed, is constructed.
United Development Company informed the Commission that a landscape
plan will be submitted to insure that all landscaping discussed during
the public hearing will be installed.
Hauser advised the petitioner that the testimony will be discussed
at their January 17, 1979 meeting. The public hearing adjourned at
11 :30 p.m.
A full disclosure of the public hearing is available in the Official
Transcript.
Submitted by:
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Attachment: Objections submitted by the Ad Hoc
Committee of the Village on the Lake
c: Chairman & Members of Plan Commission, Village President and Board
of Trustees , Village Clerk, Village Manager, Assistant Village
Manager, Administrative Assistant, Administrative Intern, Building
Commissioner, Village Engineer, Director of Parks and Recreation,
Centex, NWMC.
(12/15/78)
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} O B J E C T I O N
I TO PROPOSED REVISION
TO APPROVED- LAND USE PLAN
Now comes the AD HOC COMMITTEE of the Village on the Lake
Condominium Associations - -(hereinafter -referred to as "Objectors")
by and through their attorney STEVEN P.' BLOOMBERG and pursuant to
authority granted by members of the individual associations , enters
its Objection to the proposed revision of an approved land use plan
presented by Urban Land and Development Company to the Village of
Elk Grove.
1. THE PROPOSED REVISION DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE IN COMPLIANCE
WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR .AN R-4 DISTRICT. (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT) .
The current Ordinance of the Village of Elk Grove defines
Common Open Space as "land unoccupied by structures, buildings,
streets , rights of way, and automobile parking lots and designed
and intended for the use or enjoyment of residents of a planned
development. " The Ordinance further states that "except for Senior
Citizen Housing, no area within 30 feet of any building or structure,
except structures used for recreational use, shall be includable for
Common. Open Space. " In .an R-4 District (Planned Development) fifty
percent of the area not subdivided into lots shall remain common
open space. Although the proposed revision allegedly meets the
fifty percent common open space requirement, it appears that the
calculation of the. common open space area includes the 30 foot
envelope around the buildings, which is contrary to the Ordinance.
2 . - THE PROPOSED REVISION DOES NOT MAKE ADEQUATE PROVISION
FOR GUEST PARKING AND UNIT.- OWNERS WITH MORE THAN TWO VEHICLES .
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If -the residents of - the manor homes do not have parking
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for their vehicles and for the vehicles .of ,their' guests within
the confines of the manor home development, the overflow will
park in - the existing parking lots of Objectors and along the f
streets of the development creating congestion and potential
traffic hazards. The approved land plan for the undeveloped
area provides for adequate parking for three 5-story condominium f
buildings -similar to parking now provided for the- existing buildings .
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_The proposed common open space of the revision has been obtained by
sacrificing adequate parking for open -space, which- is contrary t
to the intent of the Ordinance that open space be provided for the
use or enjoyment of the residents of a planned development.
3 . THE PROPOSED REVISION DOES NOT PROVIDE RECREATIONAL
FACILITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE MANOR HOMES .
Since no facilities will be provided by the developer, the
residents of the new development will have to. look elsewhere .for
recreational opportunities . The closest and most convenient
. facilities are those owned- and maintained by Objectors . Objectors
have no way to restrict their tennis courts and swimming pools to
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the exclusive use of their residents without undertaking costly
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and time-consuming policingand screening procedures . In addition,
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it destroys the neighborhood good-will of an area for outsiders
who .do not contribute to the upkeep and -maintenance ' of recreational
facilities to be able .to participate .in the use and enjoyment of
the facilities. The existing facilities were not - intended for the
use of the future residents of the undeveloped portion of Parcel D. i
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According to the land plan .now in existence for the remainder of
Parcel D, the residents were to have their own facilities . If
Urban Land Development is permitted to depart- from the approved
land plan, its failure to provide recreational facilities will
place an undue burden on the existing facilities. If there were
no recreational .facilities in the entire development, failure to
provide . such facilities for the remainder of Parcel D would
create few problems. However, since facilities do exist,
Objectors do not wish to be placed in the position of the "haves" `
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keeping out the "have-nots" , especially when the "have-nots" are
children who desire to use playgrounds, tennis courts , and swimming
pools adjacent to their homes.
4 . THE PROPOSED REVISION DEPARTS FROM THE CONCEPT OF A
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WELL-PLANNED COMMUNITY WHICH PROVIDES ADEQUATE .AMENITIES FOR ALL
ITS RESIDENTS.
Objectors purchased their homes in reliance on representations
made by the developer that the entire community would be developed
according to an approved land plan. Attached hereto as Exhibit A
is a copy of a brochure used by the developer 's salesmen in
marketing the units previously constructed. This brochure shows
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the remainder of Parcel D as a part of the entire community with
buildings, facilities, and parking all consistent with an overall
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plan stressing care-free suburban living. Objectors relied on I
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the representations of the developer that 'the land plan approved
by the Village of Elk Grove was a land concept of development for
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all of Parcel D. . The very essence of. a planned unit development
is that the entire plan will be carried out as approved. To
let the developer depart from the plan in the later phases of
construction is to destroy the concept. If- changes are to be
permitted in the various stages of a land plan, then each stage
should be approved separately to protect consumers from purchasing
a dwelling unit in which they think is a total community only
to discover that the total .community concept is subject to the
developers ability to -remove -a material portion of the land from
the- plan. The purpose- of this Plan Commission is to protect the
health, safety and welfare of the residents of -the -community by
prohibiting the developer from proceeding with only those parts'
of an approved land plan which prove to be profitable at the
expense of the residents of the Village.
AD HOC COMMITTEE OF THE VILLAGE ON
THE LCONDOM ASSOCIATIONS
BY:
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S� teven �P. loomberg
MOSS AND BLOOMBERG, LTD.
Attorneys at Law
330 W. Irving Park Road
Wood Dale, Illinois 60191
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