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Minutes
Elk Grove Village Plan Commission
July 19, 1978
The regular meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order
by Acting Chairman Hauser at 8:05 p.m. on Wednesday, July 19, 1978 in
the Council Chamber of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington Avenue.
MEMBERS PRESENT: STAFF PRESENT:
Edward Hauser, Acting Chairman Robert Callahan,
Leah Cummins, Secretary Building Inspection Supervisor
John Glass Richard M. Finn,
Thomas Hamilton (9:30 p.m.) Administrative Assistant
George Mullen
James Petri
Orrin Stangeland
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
Docket 78-6: Winston Grove Section 24
Fred Feinstein, Attorney; Russell Taylor, Architect: Joseph Luciani ,
Director of Development, Centex: Gerald Harper, Vice President in Charge
of Operations , Centex; and Richard Howe, Project Manager, Centex, were
present to represent the petitioner. The petitioner was requesting that
approximately 77.6 acres of property be rezoned from R-3, Residential
District to A-2, Special Use, for the purpose of constructing 204 town-
houses . The subject property is located in Winston Grove Section 24.
Taylor began the presentation by briefly describing the petitioner's
site plan. He noted that the subject property was located in the
northwest corner of Elk Grove Village. He stated that the subject
property was bordered by the encroachment limit of the flood plain,
and therefore the site plan was designed according to the criteria
that would be required. At that point, Luciani stated that the proposed
site plan would meet all Village requirements and standards concerning
detention areas.
Harper continued the presentation by stating that the petitioner
was requesting an A-2, Special Use because it would allow the developer
to vary the lot size. He noted that the petitioner was requesting
two variations from the Zoning Ordinance: First, that the proposed
development would have 10.5 units per acre " the Village's Zoning
Ordinance permitted only 10 units per acre; Secondly, the proposed
site plan indicated that the detached garages would be placed in front
of the units and they would only have a 25 foot setback from the lot
line -- the Zoning Ordinance requires a 60 foot setback from the lot
line.
At that point, Hauser stated that he had received a letter from
the Village of Schaumburg concerning the proposed rezoning. Hauser
stated that the Village of Schaumburg's letter expressed a deep
concern over the future east-west access from Schaumburg and other
communities lying west of Elk Grove Village. Hauser noted that the
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Plan Commission Minutes - 2 - July 19, 1978
Docket 78-6: Winston Grove Section 24 (continued)
Village of Schaumburg would like to see Weathersfield Way extended to
an improved Rohlwing Road/Old 11 . 53• Hauser also noted that the
letter indicated that the Village of Schaumburg was currently making
efforts to have Martingale Road extended southward to Rohlwing Road
with a four-lane divided roadway cross section. The letter continued
by stating that the approval of the rezoning petition presently
before the Plan Commission with the proposed site plan would prevent
the extension of Weathersfield Way and greatly impair areawi-de traffic
control . Hauser concluded by stating that the letter respectfully
requested that the Plan Commission require the petitioner to either
redesign the proposed site plan to include a direct arterial link
to Weathersfield Way between Plum Grove Road and Martingale Road or
require the petitioner to dedicate a 100 foot right-of-way in such
a location that an extension would be possible at a future time.
Feinstein noted Hauser's statement;' however, he stated that in
order to provide the access that was referred to in the letter submitted
by the Village of Schaumburg, the petitioner would have to construct a �
roadway over very poor soil . He stated that such a requirement was
outside the realm of the proposed project and would defeat the petitioner's
intent to provide housing at a reasonable costa He noted that the
petitioner was currently planning on charging approximately $55,000.00
per unit.
Cummins began the questioning by asking if the petitioner intended
to have any of the units federally subsidized. Feinstein responded
that the proposed development was not a low income housing plan. It
would be completely financed by conventional sources .
Cummins continued by asking if the petitioner was aware that
the Village Engineer had recommended that Ordinance No. 1097 be
invoked in the development of the proposed townhouse area. Feinstein
stated that they were aware of the recommendation and that the proposed
project would be implemented over a two year period of time, thereby
limiting the number of units built per year.
Mullen continued the questioning by asking the petitioner what
it would mean if they were requested to conform with the Zoning
Ordinance as it related to the two variations referred to earlier.
Luciani responded to the question by stating that in his opinion there
was no way of placing the garages in the rear of the proposed townhouses
without the development of an alleyway between each unit.
Mullen noted that the site plan provided many acres of open space.
He asked the petitioner what they intended to do with the open space.
Luciani stated that the open space would be dedicated to the Village.
Mullen continued by asking why the developer had not connected
the proposed rezoning development's street network together with the
single family street development. Luciani stated that the two
proposed developments were separated by Salt Creek and that in order
to provide a connecting roadway, the petitioner would have to construct
a very expensive bridge network.
Hauser noted Luciani 's response and he asked how the Fire Department
would respond to the single family units . Luciani stated that the Fire
Department equipment would have to travel through Section 23 in order
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Docket 78-6: Winston Grove Section 24 (continued)
to reach the single family development proposed in Section 24.
Stangeland asked if the proposed detention area would be dry
detention. Luciani stated that it would be dry detention.
Glass continued the questioning by asking the petitioner how
many street parking places would be available for each unit. Luciani
stated that he was unable to answer the question because he had not
calculated the answer. Glass continued by noting that in his opinion,
there was a significant problem with the proposed rezoning site plan
in that it did not provide adequate offsite parking. Luciani noted
Glass's concern; however, he stated that in the proposed residential
area , there would be approximately two offside parking spaces. Glass
continued by noting that because of the high density of the proposed
development, there would be a real problem with providing visitor
parking. Glass asked if the petitioner had thought of possibly providing
extra parking. Luciani stated that they had not.
Glass continued by asking the petitioner what they intended to do
with the open space before it was turned over to the Village. Luciani
responded by stating that the property would be turned over to the
Village in its natural state. Glass noted Luciani 's response and he
stated that in his opinion it would be very difficult for a family with
young children because there would be no recreational areas in the
proposed development.
Petri commented that the proposed site plan appeared to have the
highest use of the property; however, he noted that it probably was
not the best use of the property. Petri asked the petitioner why
they were only providing a two rated dividing wall as opposed to a
masonry wall . Harper stated that the decision was based on economic
factors .
Petri continued by asking where the closest schools would be and
how would the residents reach them. Luciani stated that in Section 23
there was currently proposed a grammar school and a junior high school
which would be less than one quarter mile away from the proposed
development in Section 24.
Hamilton stated that he had requested the United States Soil and
Water Conservation District to review the proposed site plan. He
noted that he had received a letter from them stating that the proposed
site plan would not be in violation with the Upper Salt Creek plan.
Hauser noted that the Commission's report on the subject development
stated that the proposed ground coverage for a typical lot was 5,232
square feet which exceeded the 4,872 square feet that was permitted
by the Zoning Ordinance. Luciani noted Hauser's statement and he
stated that in some instances the lot size would exceed the square
footage allowed by the Zoning Ordinance and therefore they would
require a variation.
Hauser next asked what advantage would the Village receive by
accepting the open space. Feinstein responded to Hauser's question
by stating that the open space would be left in its natural state
as required by Federal and State regulations.
Hauser continued by asking why the petitioner proposed detached
garages. Harper stated that the petitioner's market studies had
sugested that the detached garages would be a very good selling feature.
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Docket 78-6: Winston Grove Section 24 (continued)
Next Hauser asked why the petitioner was attempting to isolate
the proposed development. Luciani responded by stating that the site
plan was designed in such a manner that through traffic would not
have to travel through the development.
Hauser noted that in his opinion the cul-de-sacs shown on the
site plan were very misleading and in actuality were deadends.
Luciani noted Hauser's concern and he stated that it might be possible
to have one of the cul-de-sacs join Meacham Road; however, Luciani
noted that that decision would have to depend on engineering variables
Cummins asked if Centex had ever produced a townhouse development
similar to the one being proposed. Harper stated that Centex had
not designed any townhouse development similar to the one being proposed.
Next Glass inquired if the petitioner would be willing to provide
road access from the single family development to the townhouse
development. Luciani stated that it would be unfeasible to provide
such an access because it would require the building of a costly bridge
network which was outside the scope of the proposed development.
Cummins concluded the questioning by asking when the petitioner
intended on having the townhouses ready for occupancy. Harper stated
that it was Centex' intent to begin construction during the spring of
1979 and the units would be ready for occupancy some time during the
fall of 1979•
A full disclosure of this transaction is available in the Official
transcript.
Docket 78-7: Northern Home Furnishings Company
Howard Galler was present to represent the petitioner. The
petitioner was requesting that approximately 1 . 19 acres of land located
at 600 Busse Road be rezoned from B-2, General Business District to
1-1 , Restricted Industrial District. The petitioner was proposing
to construct an industrial building on the subject property.
Galler began his presentation by submitting a proposed site plan
for the subject property. He noted that the subject property was
surrounded by 1-1 , Restricted Industrial .
Hamilton began the questioning by asking the petitioner why he
wanted to rezone the property. Galler responded by stating that
originally he had requested that the Village rezone the entire parcel
to a B-2, General Business District, for the development of the Northern
Home Furnishings Company. Galler noted that it was the petitioner's
original intent to expand the NHFC after a period of five years ; however,
upon the lapse of the five year period, it was determined by the
petitioner that business did not warrant the expansion of the NHFC.
Therefore, it was the petitioner's intent to rezone the portion of the
property not occupied by the NHFC to an 1-1 , Restricted Industrial
District zoning.
Glass continued the questioning by asking what size and height
the petitioner proposed for the industrial building. Galler responded
to the question by stating that the building would be 2,800 square
feet and approximately 18 feet in height. He noted that it was the
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Docket 78-7: Northern Home Furnishings Company (continued)
petitioner's intent to begin construction of the industrial building
some time during the spring of 1979.
Petri inquired whether the petitioner intended to have one sole
user of the building or would there be multiple users. Galler stated
that the petitioner was considering the possibility of having multiple
users .
At that point, Hamilton moved to approve the petitioner's request
to rezone the property at 600 Busse Road from B-2, General Business
District to 1-1 , Restricted Industrial District. Mullen seconded the
motion. All present voted 'Aye' .
Text Amendment to Zoning Ordinance: Conditional Uses
in B-3, Automotive Oriented District
Hauser began the discussion by noting that he had received a memo
from the Village President requesting that the Plan Commission act
upon the text amendment for conditional uses in B-3, Automotive Oriented
Business Districts. Hauser continued by stating that the Plan Commission
had discussed the issue on various occassions ; however, there was con-
siderable indecision on how to act upon the text amendment.
At that point, Hamilton stated that the proposed text amendment
in its present form was totally unacceptable and he moved that the Plan
Commission recommend that the text amendment be denied. He noted in
his motion that the Plan Commission acknowledged the intent of the
proposed text amendment and that the Commission would resolve to prepare
a workable proposal for the Village Board's consideration when the
Plan Commission's workload permitted.
He further requested authorization to engage the Village Planning
Consultant to assist the Commission's efforts in developing an
acceptable proposal . Petri seconded the motion. All present voted 'Aye' .
Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 233
Hauser noted that the Engineering and Building Departments had
approved Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 233. Mullen made a motion
to recommend approval of the plat. Glass seconded the motion. All
present voted 'Aye' .
Loos First Addition to Elk Grove
Hauser noted that the Engineering and Building Departments had
approved Loos First Addition to Elk Grove. Mullen made a motion to
recommend approval of the plat. Cummins seconded the motion. All
present voted 'Aye' .
The meeting adjourned at- 11 :05 p.m.
Submi
X by,
Richard M. Finn
RMF:ms Administrative Assistant
(7/28/78)