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Elk Grove Village Plan Commission
April 5, 1978
The regular meeting of the Plan Commission was called to
order by Chairman Shannon at 8:20 p.m. on April 5, 1978 in the Multi-
Purpose Room of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington Avenue.
MEMBERS PRESENT: STAFF PRESENT:
William Shannon, Chairman Richard M. Finn,
Leah Cummins, Secretary (8:45 p.m.) Administrative Assistant
John Glass
Thomas Hamilton
Edward Hauser
James Petri
Docket 78-1 : Bolger Rezoning and Annexation
Terrence Bolger, Realtor, and Charles Byrum, Attorney, were present
to represent the petitioner. _The petitioner was requesting that the
Village annex approximately 1 .2.- acres of property located at the
southeast corner of Rohlwing Road and Biesterfield Road. The annexation
of the subject property would be made contingent on the property being
rezoned to B-2, General Business District for the establishment of a
Convenience Shopping Center. The Village's Official Map indicates the
property to be zoned R-3, Residential District.
Shannon began the discussion by noting that the petitioner had
submitted a revised site plan and that the operating departments had
reviewed the revised plans and had submitted their usual staff reports
and recommendations . Shannon continued by stating that in his opinion
there were three issues that the Commission had to address before
making a decision on the petition for rezoning. First, was the proposed
B-2 district the highest and best use of the property; second, would
the request for a variation from the 75 foot setback adversely affect
the future development of the abutting property; and third, could the
petitioner provide proper access into the rear of the development in
order to satisfy the Fire Department's requirements . Shannon concluded
by noting that he had certain reservations about whether the proposed
zoning would be the highest and best use of the subject property.
Byrum responded to Shannon's statement by noting that the revised
site plan attempted to answer several of the Plan Commissioners earlier
concerns . He stated that the revised plan indicated the following
changes: first, the original structure had been reduced from 11 ,000
square feet to 9,900 square feet; second, the new plan provided adequate
rear access for emergency vehicles; third, the number of parking spaces
had been reduced from 78 to 60; and fourth, the new plan provided a
detailed landscaping plan which the petitioner would be committed to
install . Byrum continued by stating that the petitioner would still
require a variation from the 75 foot setback requirement and he might
also need a variation from the parking requirements.
Byrum further noted that the subject property was zoned for
commercial use in the County; however, it was the petitioner's desire
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Docket 78-1 : Bolger Rezoning and Annexation (continued)
to annex into the Village for the obvious benefits of water and sewer
service, and fire and police protection. Byrum concluded by stating
that the petitioner had attempted to satisfy the concer.ns outlined by
the-Plan Commis.s.ion.during a prior-meeting.
Shannon stated that the Commission did appreciate the petitioner's
willingness to comply with their requests and that it was very apparent
that the petitioner had demonstrated a good attitude of working with
the Plan Commission. Shannon noted that a major concern that he had was the
petitioner's request for a variation from the 75 foot setback requirements
on the east and south sides of the subject property. More specifically,
Shannon stated that the responsibility of land planning was what had
the Commission concerned over the request to rezone the property.
Byrum responded to Shannon's statement by stating that the subject
property had certain limitations because of its actual size. Glass noted
that precisely because of the size limitation of the property, it could
imply that the proposed commercial use was not the best use of the
subject property.
At this point, Shannon stated that in his opinion the Commission
could rule out residential and industrial uses for the subject property.
He noted that the important question was whether the best use of the
property was Commercial or Office-Transitional . Bolger responded by
stating that he had hired the Research Realty Company in 1976 to determine
the best use of the subject property. Bolger noted that Research Realty
stated that because of the location of Alexian Brothers office structure,
there would only be limited potential for developing an office complex
on the subject property. Bolger continued by stating that the report
issued by Research Realty indicated that the subject property would
be best developed as commercial when Biesterfield Road was extended.
Hamilton inquired if the petitioner could develop the property
as central office for the Bolger Realtor operation. Bolger stated
that he did not believe that he would be able to rent the office space
that would be available. Bolger concluded by noting that if the
property was only 20,000 square feet, he could successfully develop a
small office building. However, he argued that because of the size
of the property, he could not economically develop an office complex.
Hamilton continued by asking Bolger if he ever considered developing
the property with an office complex and if he had, did he ever have
plans drawn up for an office building. Bolger stated that he had
considered developing the property with an office complex. However,
because of the economic infeasibility of such a project, he never had
plans developed for that type of development.
Hauser inquired if Bolger felt that there was a definite need
for a Convenience type operation at the proposed location. Bolger
stated that he was certain that there was a need for the proposed
development. Hauser noted Bolger's statement but he stated that in
his opinion there didn' t appear to be the definite need that the petitioner
insisted did exist.
Glass noted that according to the revised site plan, it appeared
that the proposed landscaping was located within the right-of-way for
Rohlwing Road. He inquired what would happen to the landscaping if
Rohlwing Road was ever widened. Bolger stated that if Rohlwing Road
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Docket 78-1 : Bolger Rezoning and Annexation (continued)
was ever widened, it would cut�into the landscaping; however, he noted
that there would still be approximately 15 feet of landscaping left if
the road was widened. Glass continued by noting that the revised site
plan indicated berms in a 16 foot wide area. He noted that in his
opinion, it would not be practical to place berms in such a small area.
Bolger agreed with Glass's contention and he suggested that he put the
sidewalk two feet within the lot line and run a two foot wide hedge
between the lot line and the right-of-way on Rohlwing Road.
Hauser reiterated that he was not convinced that the proposed
Convenience Shopping Center was the best use of the property. He also
stated that he did not agree to allowing a variation from the 75 foot
setback requirements . Hauser concluded by noting that he had doubts
over whether the proposed use would be viable because of the existence
of several nearby convenience shopping centers .
Byrum noted Hauser's concern and he stated that Bolger was going
to build and manage the proposed development and he was quite certain
of a successful operation.
At that point, Hamilton moved to recommend to the Village Board
the approval of the rezoning request. Cummins seconded the motion.
Hauser stated that if the Commission voted to recommend approval
of the rezoning, in effect the Commission would be recommending that
the petitioner be granted a variation to the 75 foot setback requirement
and a variation to the parking requirement.
Hamilton argued that the petitioner could comply with the 75 foot
setback requirements on the east and south sides of the property by
simply moving the proposed structure to the north so that it abutted
the corner of Biesterfield and Rohlwing Roads . However, Hamilton noted
that such a plan would be ridiculous and it would be very poor planning.
Shannon stated that he shared the concern over the variation from
the 75 foot setback; however, he believes the actual affect was not as
severe because there were no people living on the east or south sides
of the property.
At that point, Shannon called for a vote. Those voting 'AYE '
are as follows: Shannon, Cummins , Glass, Hamilton, and Petri . Voting
'NAY' : Hauser.
Centex Section 23: Final Plat
Joseph Luciani , Dick Corlett, Robert Folley and Paul Hendersen
were present to represent the petitioner, Centex. Luciani began the
discussion by stating that Centex had decided to divide Section 23 into
two parts . He noted that the portion referred to as Section 23A was
located east of Biesterfield Road and east of Potomac Street.
Shannon began the questioning by asking if Section 23A would affect
access into the Schmidt Farm. Luciani stated that Section 23A would
not affect the establishment of an access into the Schmidt Farm if
it were decided that one was needed.
Luciani noted that the proposed final plat for Section 23A was
exactly the same as the preliminary plat that was approved by the Plan
Commission several months earlier. He continued by stating that the
reason that Centex decided to divide the development into two sections
was because the property was located in two different sanitary sewer
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Centex Section 23: Final Plat (continued)
sheds . Luciani contended that dividing the development into two
sections would be more workable to the Village and to Centex.
Luciani continued by noting that he had met with the Elk Grove
Park District and School District 54 in an attempt to determine the
actual location of the proposed school building to be located in
Section 23. Hauser stated that before recommending approval of the
final plat, he would like to be assured by Centex that the Park
District would be willing to resolve any engineering problems that
might exist in the proposed park area and the detention site. Shannon
agreed with Hauser's concern and he stated that he would like to keep
a door open in case the Park District had any problems with the
engineering of the property that they would eventually take over.
Luciani responded by stating that he would be willing to meet with
the Park District and discuss and resolve any possible engineering
problems .
At that point, Hamilton made a motion to recommend approval of
Section 23A final plat contingent on the Village's receipt of a
letter from the Elk Grove Park District indicating approval of the
engineering plans for the park area and the storm water detention
areas . Hauser seconded the motion. All present voted 'AYE' .
The meeting adjourned at 11 :30 P.M.
Sub ted by,
Richard M. Finn �J
Administrative Assistant
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(4-14-78)
c: Chairman & Members of Plan Commission, Village President and Board
of Trustees, Village Clerk, Village Manager, Assistant Village
Manager, Administrative Assistant, Building Commissioner , Village
Engineer, Planning Consultant, Director of Parks and Recreation,
Calkins, Centex.