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Elk Grove Village Plan Commission
January 4, 1978
The regular meeting of the Plan Commission was called to
order by Chairman Shannon at 8: 15 p.m. on Wednesday, January 4, 1978
in the Multi-Purpose Room of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington
Avenue.
MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT:
William Shannon, Chairman Edward Hauser
Leah Cummins, Secretary STAFF PRESENT:
John Glass Thomas Rettenbacher,
Thomas Hamilton Building Commissioner
James Petri Richard M. Finn,
William Wesley (10:00 p.m.) Administrative Assistant
Lancer Corporation: Preliminary Plat
Mr. Hunter was present to represent the Lancer Corporation in
their request to annex 34 acres into the Village. Mr. Hunter began
the discussion by noting that he had submitted a new preliminary plat
to the Village according to the Plan Commission recommendations dis-
cussed at an earlier Commission meeting.
Shannon stated that the Commission had received staff reports
concerning the preliminary plat and he asked Hunter if Lancer would
comply with the Fire Department' s request to change one of the street
names. Mr. Hunter stated that they would make the required change.
Hamilton continued the questioning by asking if Lancer was
planning to annex the 6 acre leave-out which would be used for the
Elgin-O'Hare right-of-way. Hunter stated that Lancer did not intend
on annexing the 6'acres into the Village at the present time. Hunter
did note that they would attempt to annex the 6 acres at a later date,
at which time they would bring a legal suit against the State over
the State' s right to require the right-of-way for the proposed Elgin-
O'Hare Expressway.
Rettenbacher stated that Lancer was planning on utilizing one of
the existing structures for a temporary office building. Hunter agreed
that Lancer would probably request the ability to use several of the
existing structures currently existing on the property. Rettenbacher
noted that the utilization of the existing structures could be handled
in an annexation agreement.
Glass asked if Lancer planned on developing the 6 acre leave-out
if they successfully obtained a vacation of the subject right-of-way.
Hunter responded that upon obtaining a vacation for the property, the
Lancer Corporation would attempt to integrate the six acres into the
proposed development. Hunter noted that they would probably extend
Patricia Court into the leave-out area and develop approximately ten
additional units.
Glass next inquired how long it would take to complete the proposed
development. Hunter stated that Lancer would build approximately 50
units per year and he noted that they were planning on selling some of
the lots to different developers.
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Lancer Corporation: Preliminary Plat (continued)
At this point, Cummins moved to recommend approval of the
preliminary plat. The recommendation was made contingent on Lancer
complying with the Fire Department's request for the street name
change, and that the disposition of the existing structures should
be worked out to the satisfaction of the Village officials . Hamilton
seconded the motion. All present voted 'Aye' .
Docket 76-6: Text Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance - Antennae
At the August 23, 1976 Plan Commission meeting, the Commission
voted to deny the proposed Text Amendment concerning antennae. The
Commission concluded their motion to recommend denial by stating that
the Commission would obtain zoning ordinances from the surrounding
communities and review alternative approaches to zoning for antennae.
The Commission also suggested that the petitioners redraft the proposed
Text Amendment into a more comprehensive ordinance.
Mr. Harbin and Mr. Fulton were present to represent the interests
of radio communication enthusiasts . Mr. Harbin began the discussion
by noting that his group had submitted a variety of information con-
cerning antennae heights to the Plan Commission. Hamilton inquired
whether the petitioners had submitted a proposed ordinance. Shannon
stated that they did not submit a new ordinance, although they had
made a recommendation. Shannon continued by noting that Fulton had
submitted a recommendation on March 16, 1977 on behalf of the organized
CB and Ham operators. The recommendation stated that a new paragraph F
be added to Section 5. 23, entitled "Accessory Structures and Uses
Permitted in All Residential Districts". The proposed section was
written as follows:
F. Non-commercial broadcasting and receiving antennas
may be erected to a height of 80 feet above ground
level .
Shannon next asked if it were plausible to establish separate
antennae heights for the CB operators and the Ham operators . Rettenbacher
responded by noting that in his opinion separate antennae heights would
not be a workable situation. Rettenbacher stated that if two different
antennae heights were permitted, the Village would be put in the difficult
position of enforcing the requirement.
Rettenbacher continued by stating the current ordinance requires
a building permit for any antennae which is under 35 feet high. Any
proposed antennae which would be over 35 feet high must apply for a
Special Use Permit and present the appropriate information before the
Plan Commission during a Public Hearing. Shannon noted Rettenbacher's
statement and he stated that he felt that it was fair to allow the Ham
operators to erect higher antennae than the CB operators, since the Ham
operators required the additional height. Rettenbacher stated that the
lot sizes in the Village had a direct relationship to an acceptable
antenna size.
Hamilton stated that if the Village allowed additional heights for
antennae, many of the CB operators would disrupt the residents of the
Village by abusing the CB equipment. Hamilton argued that the Commission
should leave the current regulations as they currently appear in the
Village's Zoning Ordinance. Hamilton noted that the current ordinance
Plan Commission Minutes - 3 - January 4•, 1971
Docket 76-6: Text Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance - Antennae (continued)
provided the CB and Ham operators with the ability to request a Special
Use. Hamilton concluded by stating that the existing ordinance also
provided for the protection of the neighboring residents .
Glass asked if it was acceptable to allow antennae 35 feet high
when free-standing or 20 feet above the roof of the structure (house) .
Hamilton stated that Glass's suggestion seemed to be workable. Hamilton
suggested that the antennae could be 20 feet higher than the structure
(the antenna would not have to be attached to the structure) , or a total
of 35 feet .high.
Rettenbacher noted Hamilton's suggestion and he stated that a person
with a large house could have a very high antenna which could disrupt
his neighbor who owned a smaller house. Hamilton argued that the Village
was designed with the same type of houses in each respective section
and therefore Rettenbacher's suggested problem would be very minimum.
Hamilton continued by noting that under the existing ordinance a
homeowner with a two-story structure could not erect a suitable antenna
because of the limitation of 35 feet.
Rettenbacher suggested that another possible solution would be
to recommend that the court reporter be dispensed with during Public
Hearings for Antennae Special Use Permits. Rettenbacher noted that
this action would save the petitioner $100.00 and the total cost for
the Public Hearing would be $50.00. Hamilton argued that he did not
believe that the cost of the Public Hearing was the main problem.
Shannon asked if it would be plausible to recommend that antennae
not be permitted to be higher than 20 feet above the home or a maximum
of 35 feet. Glass stated that he agree with such an amendment to the
ordinance and in fact he could recommend only 10 feet allowance above
the home. Fulton noted the Commissioner's statements and he stated
that if the Commission amended the ordinance in the direction that
they were discussing, then in effect a person with a 14 foot house could
erect an antenna 20 feet above his home, for a total of 34 feet. Fulton
noted that this was actually one foot less than what the current
ordinance permitted.
Shannon noted Fulton's comment and he stated that the Commission
did not intend on recommending an ordinance which allowed everyone the
right to erect 60 foot high antennae. Shannon noted that the visual
aspect of the antennae was an important issue. He stated that in his
opinion there was a direct relationship between the height of the
antennae and the height of the respective house.
At this point Hamilton recommended that the proposed Paragraph F
of Section 5.23 read as follows: "Non-commercial broadcasting and receiving
antennae may be erected to a height of not more than 35 feet above the
ground or 20 feet above the roofline of the principle structure. If
the antennae is separate from the structure, the antennae shall not be
within the side yard nor shall it be within 20 feet of any property
line. The antennae must also be within 10 feet of the principle
structure (house) : Hamilton noted that the above recommendation
attempted to tie the height of the antennae to the height of the
structure, thereby provided a shield from the antennae.
Glass stated that Hamilton's suggestion seemed to be reasonable
and fair. Glass also noted that it allowed the residents an ability
to control their neighborhood. Fulton stated that Hamilton's
Plan Commission Minutes - 4 - January 4, 1978
Docket 76-6: Text Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance - Antennae (continued)
recommendation had both negative and positive aspects ; however, he noted
that it was better to have some type of action. The concensus of the
Commission was to have staff draw up a finding of fact based on
Hamilton's recommendation.
Docket 77-11 : Mobile Service Station
The petitioner, Mobile Corporation, was requesting that the
property located at the northwest corner of Meacham and Nerge Roads
be rezoned from R-3, Residential District to B-3, Automotive Orientated
District, for the establishment of a self-service gas station.
Shannon began the discussion by noting that if the Commission
recommended denial of the requested rezoning, they should review
the possible alternative uses of the subject property. Glass noted
that the property was definately suited for some type of commercial
use; however, he noted that he questioned whether it was advisable
to rezone the property to B-3.
Wesley stated that he felt that Centex had created their own
problem by causing the high elevation of the subject property. Wesley
noted that the high elevation of the property was very important and
Centex did not bring the 7 foot grading difference to the Commission's
attention during their discussion of Section 22.
Cummins stated that in Indiana she had observed several commercial
establishments which were designed like beautiful homes so that they
fit into the residential areas . Cummins noted that the arrangement
was much more than landscaping and it might be a workable situation.
Wesley noted Cummins comment and he stated that it was a good thought
for the future.
Rettenbacher stated that whatever was built on the subject property,
the structure would still be the highest point in the area. Glass
agreed with Rettenbacher's observation; however, he noted that lighting
in another use might not be as objectionable.
Cummins stated that in her opinion a B-3 zoning for the subject
property was totally objectionable. She suggested that arrangements
be made for Centex to come to a Commission meeting and discuss possible
B-2 uses for the subject property. Cummins insisted that she wanted
something that would be aesthetically acceptable.
At this point, Wesley made a motion to recommend denial of the
petitioner's request for rezoning. Glass seconded the motion. All
present voted 'Aye' . Shannon requested Finn to prepare a finding of
fact to be submitted to the Commission before their January 18, 1978
meeting.
Docket 77-20: Text Amendment to Zoning Ordinance
Ambulatory Surgical Treatment Center
The petitioners (Elk Grove Village) were requesting a Text
Amendment to Section 5.5 of the Zoning Ordinance, to amend the Village's
B-2, General Business District.
Wesley began the discussion by stating that it was his feeling
that the Commission should act on the ASTC as quickly as possible.
He noted that the Commission should focus on restrictions which could
Plan Commission Minutes - 5 - January 4, 1978
Docket 77-20: Ambulatory Surgical Treatment Center (continued)
be related to a zoning interest. Wesley continued by suggesting that
he believed the free-standing requirement had some merit.
Rettenbacher suggested that the Commission investigate the
possibility of requiring an emergency entrance for the ambulance at
the AST Centers. Hamilton agreed with Rettenbacher's suggestion and
he further suggested that the Village require an outside ramp for
the ambulance.
Wesley stated that the Commission might be able to require that
the uses permitted in AST-, Centers not be allowed to be maintained
with any other medical uses . Hamilton stated that he did not feel
that they could justify such a requirement.
At this point, Shannon stated that he would like to call a
special Plan Commission meeting to continue the discussion on the
AST Center. It was the concensus of the Commissioners that the
Commission meet at a special Plan Commission meeting on Monday,
January 9, 1978 at 8:00 p.m.
Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 224
Shannon noted that the Building and Engineering Departments had
reviewed and approved the plat. Wesley made a motion to recommend
approval of the Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 224. Hamilton seconded
the motion. All present voted 'Aye' .
The meeting adjourned at 12:20 a.m.
Subm' ed by:
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Richard M. Finn
Administrative Assistant
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