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ELK GROVE VILLAGE PLAN COMMISSION
December 8, 1975
The regular meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order
at 8:15 P.M. on Monday, December 8, 1975 in the Staff Conference Room of
the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington Avenue.
MEMBERS PRESENT: STAFF PRESENT:
William Shannon Joseph J. Misurelli ,
Thomas Hamilton Administrative Intern
William Wesley Thomas Rettenbacher,
Stanley Klyber Building Commissioner
Edward Hauser
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Alvin Krasnow
Leah Cummins
Warren Jacobsen
Epstein Resubdivision
Dan Foster, representative for the McLennan Corporation,
requested a resubdivision of the Epstein property from one large lot
into seven lots . The property, located on the north side of Landmeier
Road between Route 83 and Lively Boulevard is not in the flood plain:
Klyber moved approval of the resubdivision. Hamilton seconded the
motion. All present voted "Aye".
Preliminary Plan: Arvidson
Joe Arvidson, Attorney Robert DiLeonardi and two representatives
from Rolf Campbell and Associates were present for an informal discussion
of the 30 acre Arvidson tract located on Devon Avenue. Arvidson presented
a revised plan incorporating some of the changes suggested by the Plan
Commission at the November 5th regular meeting. A copy of the plan is
in the Trustees' Conference Room. Two buildings (12 dwelling units) were
eliminated, resulting in a decline of total dwelling units from the
previous 450 to 438. A recreation building with a meeting room and
storage facility was added. Hamilton began the discussion by pointing
out that the revised plan did not incorporate many of the changes
recommended by the Commission at the November 5th meeting. The plan
had what was felt to be excessive density in the face of single family
development (or eventual development) to the East , West, and North.
Parking areas would abut these properties. Rettenbacher questioned
whether the density of the plan had been determined according to the
density definition of the zoning ordinance. He also suggested that
the aisles in the parking lot may be considered streets. It was noted
that density had grown from 100 single family homes on a plan at an
earlier date to 450 dwelling units . Arvidson attributed this to costs
in improving the property and costs of holding the property. He also
did not feel 15 dwelling units per acre-was excessive. One of the
representatives of Rolf Campbell and Associates noted that it did not
Plan Commission Minutes - 2 - December 8, 1975
appear that the revised plan had been drawn incorporating the Zoning
Ordinance density calculation.
Wesley pointed out that R-3 zoning had been approved for the
property following public hearings. It should be up to the developer'
to make a legitimate case for the change. Hauser reiterated the fact
that the Arvidson development would be surrounded by single family
development on three sides.
In reference to the concern over open space ownership and
maintenance, Arvidson noted that the buildings would be condominiums
rather than townhomes, with a homeowners association for grounds keeping
of the common open space.
Hamilton said that he does not object to multi-family development,
as long as traffic problems and lack of open space are avoided. He did
not see usable open (green) space on the revised plan.
Shannon suggested that with the amount of water-covered open
space, additional usable open space was doubtful . Hamilton reiterated
problems with Homeowners Association, including streets , and suggested
that all streets be dedicated public streets built to Village standards.
Lake maintenance problems , including flood control and silting diffi-
culties were also mentioned.
Arvidson mentioned that his developments (Hidden Valley in
Lombard and Valley Low in Glenview) were well-regarded and selling
developments.
Shannon suggested that Mr. Arvidson take the comments and
adjustments suggested and apply them to his proposal . Final suggestions
included transition-buildings other than 3 story buildings. The closeness
of buildings to homes abutting the property on the east , along with the
other previously mentioned concerns , were possible revision areas.
Triton Industrial Park Unit 13
Action on Triton Industrial Park Unit 13 had been deferred
at the November 19th regular Plan Commission meeting pending the receipt
of a correct plat. A new plat was found to be correct. The parcel is
in the flood plain according to the NIPC flood plain map. Hamilton moved
approval of Triton Industrial Park Unit 13, provided there is a provision
for compensatory storage to account for flood loss. Klyber seconded.
Klyber, Hamilton, Wesley, and Shannon voted "Aye". Hauser voted "Nay",
noting that he believed in casting a dissenting vote against building in
flood plains.
Shannon stated that at the next Plan Commission meeting,
December 23rd, the Arvidson preliminary proposal would again be discussed.
Review of the recommended thoroughfare plan (Barton-Aschman, and the
Thomas Report) would also be scheduled.
Hamilton brought up the need for an erosion control ordinance
for Elk Grove Village. It was mentioned that the Storm Water and Water
Detention Ordinance was currently under review by the Judiciary, Planning
and Zoning Committee. Copies of this proposed ordinance are attached for
the Plan Commission members.
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Plan Commission Minutes - 3 - December 8, 1975
The meeting adjourned at 10:35 P.M.
Submitted by:
osep J. surelli
Administra ive Intern
JJM:ms
Attachment
c: Chairman & members of Plan Commission , Village President & Board of
Trustees , Village Clerk, Village Manager, Administrative Assistant,
Administrative Intern, Building Commissioner, Director of Public
Works/Engineering, Planning Consultant, Director of Parks and
Recreation, Calkins , Centex.
(12-17-75)