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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLAN COMMISSION - 10/19/1972 - DOCKET 72-9 REZONING/HIGGINS IND PK/CENTEX IND PK MINUTES REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING October 19, 1972 Members Present: Chairman William Shannon; Messrs. Mead Killion, Al Krasnow, Richard Pottker, Charles Siewert, Richard Sorenson; Secretary Leah Cummins. Others Present: The Honorable Trustee Nanci Vanderweel , Mr. Thomas Rettenbacher representing Administration; Mr. Howard Krafsur, Mr. Robert Calkins; Mrs. Cathy Duoba representing the Elk Grove Housing Commission and Mrs. Joan Marsh representing an interested citizen; Mr. Lew Handler, Mr. Richard Kobus his attorney, and his architect, Mr. Markson. Upsetting a long-term precedent, the Chairman called the meeting to order on time, that is to say at 8: 10 P.M. 1 . New Business: A. The Plan Commission, sitting as a Zoning Board, conducted a public hearing identified in the public record as Docket 72-9 calling for rezoning from M-1 light industrial to B-1 business for construction of an indoor recreation facility at Howard Street and Busse Road, comprising approximately three (3) acres of land. A complete record is on file in the Village Clerk's office. B. Reconvening as a Plan Commission at 9:00 P.M. , the members reviewed the preliminary and final plat of Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 100, which was approved on motion by Mr. Siewert, seconded by Mr. Krasnow, and affirmed by all present. C. Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 101 . It was moved by Krasnow, seconded by Cummins that this preliminary and final plat be approved. All present voted AYE. D. Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 173. It was moved by Killion, seconded by Cummins that the preliminary and final of this plat be approved. All members present voted AYE. F. Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 104. It was moved by Sorenson, seconded by Siewert that this plat be approved. All members present voted AYE. G. Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 103. It was moved by Krasnow, seconded by Killian that this plat be approved. All members present voted AYE. E. Carol Place Plat of Vacation. Discussion between Commission members and Mr. Calkins revealed some misunderstanding of the width of property available for a walkway and bicycle path. Additional time is needed to consider this matter. 2. Minutes of the meeting of October 5, 1972 were read by the Secretary, enjoyed by the members, and probably will be censored by the Village Manager before 2. Minutes (continued) being distributed. Corrections to the minutes were graciously made by the Secretary after which they were approved by the membership. 3. Unfinished Business: A. Devon - 53 Project. Mrs. Cummins reported having fulfilled her assignment of checking credentials of the Kracower firm; the recommendation came rather high, but further consideration to employing this firm as a con- sultant was postponed until the next meeting. B. Centex North Stage II . Mr. Kobus introduced his attorney and then proceeded to retrace the sequence of events he has experienced since first submitting his proposal for a town factory to the Plan Commission. He said his first plan was rejected in January 1972 and that subsequently he came before the Commission, correcting his plan to override a series of objections such as water retention, right of way for reduction of the curve in the street, egress-ingress patterns, and lastly, the Fire Department'-s objection concerning the room required to accommodate emergency vehicles. Chairman Shannon commented that Lieutenant Henrici removed his objections. He finds he can "live with the current plan". Commissioner Pottker has trouble with that particular expression; it connotes less than approval , and something in the nature of silent suffering of a condition that is undesireable. From time to time we hear department heads or their representatives say that a proposed plan is something "I can live with". Some research by the Secretary shows that in a scale of values from 1 to 5, ranking 1 as the highest value, the value "I can live with it" rates No. 3. Number 1 is "I can' t live without it". Number 2 is "It' s Okay". Number 3 is "I can I+ve with it". Number 4 is "I can live without it". And Number 5 is "I can' t live with it". Truck circulation and truck passage continues to disturb members. The police patrol and emergency service was also discussed. Central janitorial service was questioned. Mr. Siewert asked for a guarantee of underground utilities on the north and east sides of the planned development, to which Mr. Kobus assented. Mead Killion came out of the silent zone to state his objection to the handling of this plan by the Commission. He felt the developer had adequately responded to every question, objection and request, and that it was incumbent on us now to take action, one way or another without any further dangling or delaying measures. It was then moved by Cummins, seconded by Pottker that the town factory concept and the site plan be approved, for Centex North Stage II . Mr. Siewert amended the motion by including the requirement for underground utility easements on the north and east sides of the property. Voting AYE: Siewert, Pottker, Sorenson, Krasnow and Cummins. ABSTAIN: Killion. Mr. Rettenbacher amazed us by mentioning we had approved a plan that has NO SITE. We wonder whose dilemna is worse: Mr. Kobus who has a plan without a site; or Mr. George Long who has a site without a plan. Tune in next week and find out. - 2 - Plan Commission Minutes October 19, 1972 J . 3. K. The Chairman announced we would skip over agenda items 3C, D, E, F, G, H, I , J, and that we would continue with item 3K, Docket 72-8 Public Hearing of October 5, 1972 for Senior Citizen Housing. At this point Mr. Shannon introduced Mrs. Duoba and Mrs. Marsh, and invited them to make any comments they cared to, since they had attended the public hearing under discussion. With a minimum of discussion, and nothing beyond what facts were entered into the public record, it was moved by Siewert, seconded by Killion that the rezoning of the subject property be granted. All members present voted AYE: M. Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 172. It was moved by Pottker, seconded by Siewert that the final of this plat be approved. All present voted AYE. N. Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 99. In response to the Chairman' s request, the Village Manager told us it was alright to proceed with approval of this plat even though it apparently lies squarely in the flood plain. After a futile plea by the Secretary to stand our ground, or, more appropriately perhaps hold our water, pending creation of a flood control commission and a flood control ordinance, Mr. Sorenson moved approval of this plat, Mr. Killion seconded it, and on roll call voting AYE were: Siewert, Sorenson, Krasnow, Killion; voting NAY were: Pottker and Cummins. 1 . A. Docket 72-9. The Chairman sternly reprimanded us for not probing at the public hearing. He said we disappointed him. "We have to get SHARP", he exclaimed! Realizing that parking would have to be the subject of another hearing, it was considered appropriate for us to act on the zoning request and so it was moved by Siewert, seconded by Killian that the rezoning be approved. All present voted AYE. At 11 :00 P.M. , Mr. Shannon released his grip on us , prompting Mr. Sorenson to move for adjournment, seconded by Siewert, Pottker, Krasnow, Cummins , Killion and Mead. Respectfully submitted, Leah Cummins LC:ms cc: Village President Village Clerk Board of Trustees Village Engineer Village Manager Police Chief Administrative Assistant Fire Chief Building Commissioner Park District Health Inspector Centex 3 - Plan Commission Minutes October 19, 1972