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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLAN COMMISSION - 05/04/1972 - RELIABLE SHEET WORKS DOCKET 72-4 MINUTES REGULAR PLA14 COMMISSION MEETING May 4, 1972 Members Present: Chairman William Shannon; Messrs. Thomas Hamilton, Charles Siewert, Gayle Bantner, Al Krasnow, Richard Sorenson; Secretary Leah Cummins . Others Present: Mr. Thomas Rettenbacher, Mr. Robert Franz, and Mr. Robert Calkins, plus petitioners %..,hose identity is part of the record of Docket 72-4. 1 . At 8: 15 p.m. the Chairman called the meeting to order and it was announced that the ritual of reading the minutes would have to be 'dispensed with since they had mysteriously disappeared from the Plan Commission's box of incoming materials. 2. New Business: A. The Plan Commission, sitting as a Zoning Board, conducted a public hearing. wherein Reliable Sheet Metal Works requested a special use permit for an off-premise parking lot. An official record of these proceedings has been made and is on file under Docket 72-4. x B. At 9:00 p.m. the Chairman reconvened the meeting of the Plan .Commission and brought as its first order of business discussion of the vacancy on the Plan Commission created by the appointment of Mr. Staddler to the Village Board. It was moved by Cummins, seconded by Hamilton that our strong desire to have Mr. Mead Killion appointed to our Commission be conveyed to our illustrious and gracious Village President. It was moved by Siegert, seconded by Cummins, that "nominations" be closed. A roll call was requested. Voting AYE - Hamilton, Bantner, Krasnow, Cummins. ABSTAIN - Siewert, Sorenson. On completion of the roll call , Mr. Siewert requested the opportunity to change his vote to AYE. 3. Unfinished Business: A. Elk Grove Industrial Park Unit No. 3. It was moved by Krasnow, seconded by Bantner that this plat be approved. Voting AYE - all members present. C. The Chairman, exercising the prerogative that is duly his, abandoned the order of the agenda and proceeded to Item 3C - Revised Plat of Subdivision for Section 18. Commission members were reminded of the presence of Mr. Franz, and it was assumed that his being there would have a salutory affect on their conduct, - which is rumored to lack decorum, at times. Mr. Hamilton reported he had three phone conversations with Messrs. Gremley and Biedermann and finally was able to translate for us the 60 foot building line on the plat, and, although the measurements appear deceiving, they actually do conform. (True building lines for those lots in question are now on the plat .) It was noted by Tom Rettenbacher that the Fire Chief noticed that Chafee Court and Parker Place cul-de-sacs are in excess of 400 feet t and are less than .100 feet in diameter. Lt was noted that , with the exception of two streets, they were all named after our astronauts . But we had been told that the naming of the streets is 'not the concern of the Plan Commission. Mr. Hamilton further reported on his consultation with Mr. Ciaglia who felt that a reasonable requirement would be for a 15 foot back yard easement of 7_1 feet and 712- feet; that 7-f' feet was adequate for a side yard where water, sewer or drainage was intended; and that 5 feet is adequate for telephone or electrical easement purposes. These measurements apply to residential develop- ment. Mr. Rettenbacher, refreshed after a two week's remission from battle on this point with the Plan Commission, pursued his favorite theme of easements being .the right of the municipality, the domain of the municipality, and the salvation of the municipality, provided they do not exceed side yard requirements. He added that it is required by ordinance for restoration of property to be made, when- ever it becomes necessary to invoke the usage of property that an easement allows. For example, grass will be replaced, and so will any planting or fence be replaced if it is disturbed. To this .Mr. Hamilton tartly replied, "You can be sure it won ' t be near as good as it was before." Mr. Sorenson restated his testimony that an easement represents a restriction on the use of a person's property and that, as such, it fails to enhance the property value. "Even a one-half foot easement that is not necessary, should not be required." Mr. Rettenbacher, with energy that was noticeably lessened from the time this discussion began, addressed himself to Mr. Hamilton saying, "I still can ' t understand why you object to an easement as . long as it doesn' t exceed the side yard requirement." Mr. Hamilton, in a gentle, fatherly fashion replied, "That ' s something, Tom Retten- bacher, you' ll never understand; just as there are some things I ' ll never understand -- like electricity." It should be noted at this point that Mr. Franz was smiling out loud. It was moved by Bantner, seconded by Siewert to approve the revised plat as drawn under date of May 1 , 1972. Voting AYE, all members present. Mr. Hamilton suggested we recommend the standards be changed in our subdivision control ordinance for residential development to show a 5 foot side yard easement where necessary for electrical or telephone usage, and a 71 foot side yard easement where necessary for sewer or/and water. B. Gatzke. We -telephoned Mr. Ciaglia, for whose advice this item had been postponed, and he reported that the plat was okay but that we should get agreement in writing that they will build one-half of that road. The Street name was recommended to be Kent Street. The foregoing was moved by Hamilton, seconded by Krasnow, and all members present voted AYE. D. This item was held over. E. This item was held over. Plan Commission - 2 - 5/4/1972 c 4. Committee Reports : A. Planning Seminar Report. Messrs. Siewert, Sorenson, Shannon and Leah Cummins, who had attended the seminar, each gave a report of their reactions to the sessions. Each had found the experience to be an extremely worthwhile one, and was appreciative for the opportunity the Board had afforded them to attend. 5. Chairman' s Report: A. Metropolitan Sanitary District 4/12/72 letter. As a result of this letter, Mr. Hamilton asked the Plan Commission to recommend to the Village Board that a Flood Control Board be established, comprised of the Village Engineer, .a representative from Center, and/or other developers; a Park Board member, a Plan Commission member or other appointee of the Village Board, and a Health Commission member. The purpose of this Board would be to develop a comprehensive flood control plan, an industrial park plan and a flood control plan for the area west of State Route 53. Mr. Hamilton informed us that our industrial park is in the head lands of the Des Plaines River, therefore requiring a separate plan from the rest of our Village which is in the Salt Creek basin. To develop such plans, we need an official body. With the consent of all Plan Commission members, this recommendation will be further discussed and relayed to the Village Board. B. Our Chairman reported that Sauer's Restaurant cannot occupy premises previously approved, due to poor soil conditions. Therefore, we will have to have a hearing to see to it that the property reverts to M-2 zoning. C. It was agreed that the meeting of May 18, 1972 would be devoted to review of the final draft of the final draft of the proposed zoning ordinance. D. NIPC Report. To be discussed next time. 6. Building Commissioner' s Report: Tom Rettenbacher furnished us with the Village Attorney's recommended wording to be added to the Village on the Lake - First Resubdivision of Part of Lot ! . The Chairman will notify the petitioner of this requirement. 7. The meeting adjourned at 10:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Leah Cummins LC:ms Secretary cc: President, Trustees, Village Manager, :Administrative Assistant, Village Clerk (2, Village Engineer, Building Commissioner, Chmn. Plan Commission, Secy. Plan Commission. Plan Commission - 3 - 5/4/1972