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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLAN COMMISSION - 01/20/1972 - HIGGINS INDUSTRIAL PK/DOCKET 71-10 r � • MINUTES REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION .MEETING January 20, 1972 Members Present: Chairman Shannon; Messrs . Bantner, Siewert, Pottker, Staddler, Hamilton; Mrs . Cummins . Others Present: Mr. Tom Rettenbacher, representing Village Administration; Mr. Bob Calkins , Mr. Don Quinn and Mr. Norman Porges , the "Lake" people; and, the newly appointed Lieutenant Charles Henrici, representing the Village Fire Department. I . The meeting was convened at 8:03 p.m . by the Chairman. Minutes of the meeting of January 6, 1972 were read and approved. 2 . New Business: A . Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 73 - This plat of subdivision was reviewed by the members . It was moved by Cummins , seconded by Bantner that the plat be approved . Voting "AYE" - all members present. B. Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 160 - This plat of subdivision was reviewed by the members . It was moved by Cummins , seconded by Siewert that the plat be approved. Voting "AYE" - all members present. 3 . Unfinished Business: A . Docket 71-10 - Parcel C. Mr. Calkins revealed plans to the members which , he said, had been amended following the public hearing on Docket 71-10 , and which incorporated the best possible alternatives for developing Parcel C . He added that he felt an urgency for approval of this plat. Chairman Shannon reminded the members who expressed dissatisfaction with some of the features that the key restrictor to any other development was the "buildability" of the land . As members expressed their deep concern over the twenty foot street widths , coupled with the restrictions on street parking, Mr. Shannon repeatedly reminded the Commission members that buildability or, more precisely, the alleged non-buildability of the land was the governing factor. Lieutenant Henrici, when asked to comment on the plan said, "We are not happy with the twenty foot street width , but the developer has engineering problems . " Mr. Pottker, who had contacted the Police Chief, reported that the Chief said municipal vehicle easements would cause the Department much trouble , and that no-parking restrictions were impossible to enforce . on private streets . The Commission members vent over their major objec- tions of street width and the unenforceability of no-parking ordinances on private streets . Plan Commission Minutes January 20, 1972 Page 2 At this point, Mr. Hamilton entered the meeting , and possibilities opened up for the discussion to get into more thrilling areas . Mr. Hamilton, however, could see no inherent potential for illicit sexual behavior as a result of twenty foot wide streets or off-street parking . He did strongly contend, as did Mr. Staddler, that Village standards should apply to all streets - public and private . At this point, a motion was made by Mr. Bantner, seconded by Mr. Pottker, that the Plan Commission approve Parcel C revised , Lots 305 through 309 , with all streets to be municipal fire lanes and no parking permitted . Voting "AYE" - Bantner, Pottker. Voting "NAY" - Siewert, Staddler, Hamilton, Cummins . Members considered recommending that Lots 305, 306 and 307 (streets . serving relatively few quadruplexes) might be twenty feet in width , but that they would adamantly hold out for twenty-eight foot widths on streets serving a multitude of units . Mr. Staddler dissented with the foregoing view and held that all streets, public and private, should meet the same standards . It was then moved by Hamilton, seconded by Staddler, that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board that the ordinances for private streets be brought up to the same standards as public streets , as regards construction, size , regulations , etc. Voting "AYE" - Siewert, Staddler, Hamilton and Cummins , hereinafter referred to as the "good guys" . Abstaining were - Bantner and Pottker. B. B. Improved Notice of Public Hearings - held over.for a future meeting . C. Rountree Pre-annexation - held over for a future meeting . 4. Committee Reports: Police and Fire Committee acknowledged the cooperation they are receiving from from their departments , as evidenced by Lieutenant Henrici's attendance at our meeting. School and Park Committee reported that time precluded a book report at this meeting , but recommended to members THE NEW DIMENSION as a worthwhile reading before the spring arrives . Environmental Committee reported that Messrs . Ciaglia and Andrews reviewed the possibility of flood insurance and found it prohibitively expensive . Except Plan Commission Minutes January 20, 1972 Page 3 for a few houses on Salt Creek, there has been no flood damage in evidence in homes . Mr. Hamilton talked about 100 year rainfalls, 50 year rainfalls, 40 year rainfalls , etc. , any of which we can -look forward to experiencing in the very near future . Mr. Hamilton is becoming the Boogy Man of the Plan Commission; he seems to like to scare us . He also told us that the Busse Woods reservoir will start in 1973 and will take a maximum of nine years for completion. S. Chairman's Report: Commendations were extended from the Chairman to all of us for doing a good job. Individual advice was given to Mr. Pottker by the Chairman which , in essence said, "Let it all hang out! " A . There would be a Village Clerk's dinner meeting on January 28, 1972 at the Flying Carpet Motor Inn with liquid refreshment at 6:00 p.m . and dinner at 7:00 p.m . , to which we were not invited . B . Town House Additions . He mentioned the requests that had been received to approve room additions to town houses, which were being forwarded on to Mr. Willis for interpretation. 6 . Building Commissioner reported that he would present the plat checklist at the second meeting in February. Another plat, Higgins Industrial Park unit 74 was presented for review. It was moved by Pottker, seconded by Siewert that we approve same . Voting "AYE" - all members . 7 . The meeting was adjourned at 10:41 p.m . until Tuesday, February 8, 1972 at 7:00 p.m . Respectfully submitted, Leah Cummins LC:ms cc: President and Trustees Village Manager Village Clerk (2) Village Engineer Building Commissioner Chairman and Secretary of Plan Commission