HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLAN COMMISSION - 11/21/1974 - DOCKET 74-11 TEXT AMENDMENT MINUTES
ELK GROVE VILLAGE PLAN COMMISSION
November 21 , 1974
The Public Hearing on Docket 74-11 was called to order by
Chairman McGrenera at 8: 15 P.M. on Thursday, November 21 , 1974 in the
Council Chamber of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington Avenue.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Alvin Krasnow
Richard McGrenera
William Wesley
Joseph Cimino
Edward Hauser
Mark Grice
MEMBERS ABSENT: Leah Cummins
Thomas Hamilton
Trustees Present: Edward Kenna
Nanci Vanderweel
Staff Present: Thomas Rettenbacher, Building Commissioner
Gary Parrin, Administrative Intern
Docket 74-11
The Plan Commission, acting as a Zoning Commission, held a
public hearing on the petition of the Village of Elk Grove, represented
by Trustee Kenna, for a proposed text amendment to the Zoning Ordinance.
The amendment is to add to Section 5.23a, paragraph E to allow fences
on double frontage lots where one yard fronts a major arterial street.
Additionally, it was suggested that Section 3.85 should be amended to
refer to and be consistant with Section 5.23-E.
At 8:32 P.M. the public hearing was adjourned. Chairman
McGrenera stated that the Commission will consider the petition.
With the court reporter present, Trustee Kenna relayed to the
Commissioners the outcome of a meeting with Gerald DeBruyne. The Village
Board approached DeBruyne to purchase sufficient land for road easement.
DeBruyne offered the right-of-way and is seeking annexation of his 20
acre tract with zoning for apartment and commercial activity. Trustee
Kenna wanted to let the Plan Commission know what transpired , since
they will conduct the public hearing December 2 on this matter.
At 9:00 P.M. the Plan Commission reconvened in the Staff Con-
ference Room.
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Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 160
Chairman McGrenera presented the Commissioners with the
Village Engineer's memo regarding compensatory storage.
Grice moved to approve Unit No. 160. Krasnow seconded the
motion.
The following voted AYE : Grice, Cimino, Krasnow; NAY: Hauser;
ABSTAIN: Wesley. The Chairman declared the Unit approved.
Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 166
Krasnow moved approval of Unit No. 166. Cimino seconded the
motion. All present voted AYE.
Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 165
Wesley moved approval of Unit No. 165. Hauser seconded the
motion. All present voted AYE.
Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 164
Krasnow moved approval of Unit No. 164. Hauser seconded the
motion. All present voted AYE.
Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 163
Grice moved approval of Unit 163• Krasnow seconded the motion.
All present voted AYE.
Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 162
Since Unit No. 162 is in the flood plain, Cimino thought the
type of structure to be constructed should be known: this would aid in
determining if it fulfills the Flood Plain Ordinance.
Grice moved for approval . Krasnow seconded the motion. The
following voted AYE: Grice, Krasnow; NAY: Hauser; ABSTAIN: Cimino, Wesley.
The Chairman declared the Unit approved.
Higgins Industrial Park Unit No. 161
Cimino moved for approval of Unit No. 161 . Wesley seconded
the motion. All present voted AYE.
Centex Industrial Park Unit No. 192
No action was taken due to Unit No. 193 being attached to
Unit No. 192's approval form.
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Elk Grove Industrial Park Unit No. 11
Hank Teague, Trammell-Crow representative, was asked by Wesley
about fulfilling retention requirements . Teague replied that all
retention calculations were approved by the Village Engineer.
Krasnow moved for approval of Unit No. 11 . Grice seconded
the motion. All present voted AYE.
Frisbie Subdivision
A revised plat of subdivision was presented to the Commissioners
containing corrections pursuant to the comments of the operating departments .
Krasnow moved to approve Frisbie Subdivision. Cimino seconded
the motion. All present voted AYE.
Mark Street
The Village Engineer approved the plat of dedication contingent
upon approval of the plat of vacation. Grice moved to approve the plat
of vacation. Cimino seconded the motion. All present voted AYE.
Wesley moved to approve the plat of dedication of the offset
cul-de-sac. Krasnow seconded the motion.
In the discussion that followed, Wesley asked Teague when
the total acquisition of the property beyond the offset cul-de-sac
would be accomplished. Teague replied that Trammell-Crow is currently
negotiating for the property.
Wesley then asked what guarantee does the Village have that
the cul-de-sac will be built. Grice said that the plat of dedication
gives the Village the guarantee.
Chairman McGrenera stated that the plat of vacation is
approved, but only if the Board of Trustees approve the plat of dedication.
He reiterated that if the plat of dedication is not approved by the
Village Board, then the approval of the plat of vacation is void.
All members present voted to approve the plat of dedication.
John L. Mgrkgy Resubdivision
The proposal for resubdivision must be in conformance with
Village ordinances . When that has been done, the resubdivision should
be presented to the Village Engineer for approval before the Commission
will act on the petition.
Bonavolonta
Chuck Byrum, Attorney for the petitioners , presented the
Commissioners with a revised site plan showing the recommendations of
the Commission and the Consultant.
The changes to the site plan are attached to the minutes .
In addition, SBL is dropping its request for a temporary
sewage retention tank. The annexation agreement can contain a provision,
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Bonavolonta (continued)
with a time limit, which would leave a lot vacant to allow Nerge Road
to curve smoothly onto Devon Avenue, should Nerge Road be Devon Avenue
extended.
Cimino asked the Building Commissioner what is the accepted
width of a fire lane. He replied 12 feet. Byrum stated that the
petitioner will comply.
Hauser raised the question of donated land around the retention
pond. He has reservations as to it being accepted by the Park District.
Byrum asked Hauser if the Park District would rather have a cash donation.
Hauser replied that he will present both alternatives, a land donation
or a cash donation, to the Park District Board.
Chairman McGrenera said that all subsequent plans of the
petitioner should show the fire lane lineation and connections .
Cimino asked Byrum if there is a percentage of trees that
the Village can expect to be planted on the site. Byrum responded
that SBL has a landscape architect on their staff and every effort
will be made to make the development aesthetically pleasing. McGrenera
stated that a number of communities give amenities to the developer
in exchange for attractive :landscaping. At some time the Commission
may desire to pursue this further.
Chairman McGrenera read letters written to the Commission,
and portions of the Public Hearing transcript, to refresh the Commission
on what Village residents think about the development and its impact
on them.
Wesley stated that no matter what number of buildings are
constructed, only 30 bedrooms are allowed per acre. Also, the permitted
uses in B-3 are diverse and gives the Village no control over what
could be built. The B-3 zoning is improper for the area along Rohlwing
Road and he fails to see what the Village will gain from the development.
The traffic problem at this location is bad enough; why compound the
problem with the cars the development will generate.
McGrenera said he wanted to give the developer some direction.
Wesley said that the Commission should look at the development behind
the Itasca Industrial Park. SBL was the architect for that development.
McGrenera wanted to know how the Commissioners would vote
on the preliminary plat, which must follow Article 4 of the Zoning
Ordinance. This would give the developer some idea of how the
Commission feels about the site plan.
Krasnow, speaking as a Commissioner and giving his own
personal opinion, said that multi-family is all that could be built
there. He would vote for approval .
Hauser said he would abstain since he missed three meetings
on the Bonavolonta proposal .
Cimino said he would also abstain. McGrenera interjected
at this point that Cimino told him before SBL presented their petition
that he was an acquaintance of the petitioner, and thus should not
partake in voting on the petition. Because of this , McGrenera asked
Cimino to sit in during the discussions and offer his comments , but
would not be asked to vote. Consequently, Chairman McGrenera changed
Cimino's abstention to a "no comment".
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Bonavolonta (continued)
Grice said that the 12 foot walkways (fire lanes) would
detract from the aesthetics of the development. Before he would vote,
he wants to know alternatives to the 12 foot walkways .
Wesley said he does not approve of the development.
Speaking for Tom Hamilton, McGrenera said that Hamilton is
ready to approve, but he wants the one lot at the intersection of
Devon Avenue and the Nerge Road extension to be left vacant. This
would allow sufficient land to connect Nerge Road and Devon Avenue
with a smooth curve.
McGrenera said he is ready to approve the development . He
told Byrum that the Commission will meet with SBL again after the
December 2 public hearing.
The meeting adjourned at 12:52 A.M.
Submitted by:
G E. Parrin
Administrative Intern
(December 2, 1974)
GEP:ms
c: Chairman & Members of Plan Commission, Village President and Board
of Trustees , Village Clerk, Village Manager, Assistant Village
Manager, Building Commissioner, Director of Public Works/Engineering,
Chief of Police, Fire Chief, Director of Finance, Planning Consultant,
and Director of Parks and Recreation.
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Mr. Richard b4cGrener.a, Chairman
Elk Grove Village Plan Commission
901 Wellington Avenue
Elk Grove Village, Illinois
Re: Devon - 53 Development - SBL Associates
Dear Mr. McGrenera:
At two recent meetings between SBL Associates and the
Plan Commission of Elk Grove Village held on October. 31 and
November 7 , 1.974, several suggestions for revisions in the
Site Development Plan which we have prepared for the development
of approximately 98 acres at the Northwest corner of Rohlwing
Road and Devon Avenue were discussed and considered in• detail.
At these meetings, we had the benefit of comments from the
various staff and departments from the Village, as well as
Mr. Allan P. Trayser, of the Village Planning Consultant, Carl
L. Gardner & Associates, Inc.
Enclosed herewith you will find a Plan for the Project
which has been further revised as of November 1.1, 1.974, and
incorporates the various items upon which we felt we received
positive direction from the Plan Commission at the meetings .
Specifically, we wish to point out to you the following changes
to the Plan which should be noted:
1. There is an elimination of one of the driveways
leading from the main parking area in .Parcel. 1 to Nerge 'Road
and its stead, there is the creation of a new private drive-
way from the Northwesterly portion of the main parking area
to the major private drive within the residential area. This
new driveway lines up with an existing driveway to the East-
of the private drive (recommendation of Plan Commission and
of Pair. Trayser) .
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2 . The main private drive within the residential area !
has been enlarged at its point of intersection with Nerge i
Road and a divider island has been placed in the middle of
the drive (recommendation of Plan Commission) .
3 . Fire lanes have been placed in and around the
residential area to provide accessibility for emergency
vehicles to and from the apartment buildings ('recommendation
of Plan Commission and Mr. Trayser) .
4 . One of the two private driveways leading from Nerge
Road has been eliminated from Parcel 3 and a connecting drive-
way has been created from the entrance way of the remaining i
driveway to the parking area served by the eliminated driveway
(recommendation of the Village) .
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5 . A turn-around area has been created at the end of
the main private drive in the residential area. Further,
the parking areas are -designed to provide for the turn-around
of cars within the area (recommendation of Mr. Trays-er) .
6 . The scale of the parking spaces has been revised
to reflect compliance with Village requirements of 200 square
feet for each stall.. Further, the location of the parking
spaces has been revised to provide for better parking ratios
for parking areas located in the proximity of the buildings
to be served (rec,ommendation of Mr. Trayser) .
• 7 . Concern has been expressed that the "10 per cent
land donation" previously proposed by the Petitioner was not
located in an area best suited for the needs of the Village,
in that it surrounded the retention pond located at the
easterly edge of the Site. Petitioner proposes as an alterna-
tive donation that. portion of the property located :in the
Northwest corner of the Site Plan designated as "Softball
Diamond" . This would serve a recreational need of the res-.-
idents
es-idents of units to be constructed within the Site, as well
as Vi-ll_age residents across Rohlwing Road. There has been
some slight building re-alignment to open the space.
Individual members of the Plan Commission have expressed
their .concern that some . sort of an indication be given by the .
Petitioners as to the contemplated development of Parcels 4 and 6
for which Petitioners are seeking B-2 and B-3 ' zoning, .respectively.
It has been explained by' the Petitioner on several occasions that
due to the relatively long range development- schedule of these
commercial areas and to the fact that the Petitioners are presently
attempting to determine from current discussions with possible end
commercial users of the two tracts the nature of current market
preferences for eventual use and development of the tracts, it is
impossible for the Petitioners to commit to a precise development-
plan at this time. The Petitioners are aware, hoz::ever, that it is
helpful for the Plan Commission in. planning :for the overall use
of the entire tract being annexed to be apprised of the tentative-
uses
entativeuses contemplated. for each tract and the tentative subdivision of
Lots for each tract. To accomplish this, Petitioners have, for
demonstrative purposes only, designated outlines of subdivided
lots and proposed uses for the Lots in each tract (itemized in B-3 and
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generalized in the B-2 tract) . i
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The Petitioners are asking for straight zoning for each
of the subject tracts in question and j::ill, at a later date , once
final uses have been determined and Plats of Subdivision have been '
prepared, submit .final plats to the Village for approval.. There
is no guarantee that the final plats or the end uses will fall
within the representations of the tentative uses and Lot locations
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contained in the Plan . Petitioners are agreeable, however, that
the Annexation Agreement with the Village contain provisions
specifically limiting- development of the B-3 area to the uses
permitted within B-1 and B-2 districts and to the following per-
mitted uses within B-3 districts:
1. Automobile service stations .
2 . Drive-in banks.
3 . Restaurants , including drive-in establishments
serving food or beverage for consumption outside the structure.
4. Card stores and gift shops .
S . Motels
6 . Indoor places of entertainment and amusements .
7 . Undertaking establishments .
8, Equipment sales, rental and services .
9 . Public utility stations .
and, that any other Use of the area will require prior Village consent.
We trust that the changes we have made on the Plan and
explained in this letter, as well as the previous inEormati_on and
exchanges we have passed on in prior meetings provide the Plan
Commission with a sufficient factual basis to enable it to make
a final decision on the Petitions for Annexation and Zoning here-
tofore submitted to the Village.
Dated this 14th day of November, 1974.
SBL ASSOCIM •S
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