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Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1985
Location: Council Chamber
Municipal Building
901 Wellington Avenue
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Glass at 8:13 p.m.
Members Present: Members Absent:
John Glass, Chairman David Paliganoff
Leah Cummins, Secretary Orrin Stangeland
Fred Geinosky
George Mullen
Clark Fulton
Staff Present:
Tom Rettenbacher, Building Commissioner
Robin Weaver, Administrative Assistant
Steve Ingebrigtsen, Police Sergeant
John Coakley, Administrative Intern
Others representing Huntington Square:
Michael Lerner, The Property Group
Bob Lux, Project Director, Dominium Group
Jayne Matt, Shepherd, Legan, Aldran, Ltd.
Jack Schliesmann, Dominium Group
Others:
Don Gearhart, Better Living Company
Several members of the Housing Commission
Better Living--Plat of Subdivision
Plans for the eleven lot subdivision were presented to the Plan
Commission. The proposed development is for the construction of single
family residences. Don Gearhart stated that the parcel is already in
the Village and zoned R-3.
Sergeant Steve Ingebrigtsen of the Police Department, presented
information regarding the number and types of accidents over a nine
year period on Arlington Heights Road at the sharp curve where the
parcel is located. He explained that during the daytime hours most
accidents at that location are minor. At night, however, the accidents
are serious and usually result in fatalities.
Ingebrigtsen explained that because Arlington Heights Road belongs
to Cook County, Elk Grove cannot legally put up a guardrail. He pointed
out, however, that some type of barrier is desirable in order to
protect the home closest to the road on Lot 2. Some cars have travelled
as much as 150 feet after leaving the roadway, placing the car in the
side of the proposed house. A barrier would at least protect the
residents of the home.
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Better Living--Plat of Subdivision (continued)
Proposed solutions were: the terracing of the property using
railroad ties; installing cement pillars; and attempting to persuade
the County to install a guardrail. Further discussion of the problem
and possible solutions followed.
Don Gearhart stated that many of the trees presently on the
property would be saved. He also said the homes would be two-story,
Victorian style valued at $130,000 - $150,000.
George Mullen motioned to recommend approval of the plat subject
to staff review and approval of a barrier on Lot 2 by the Police
Department. Clark Fulton seconded the motion. The vote for approval
passed unanimously.
Huntington Square
The Public Hearing was called to order at 8:52 p.m.
Chairman Glass stated that the question regarding the petitioner
being a corporation or a partnership had been resolved. Because the
petitioner was a partnership, no attorney was needed during the Public
Hearing.
Michael Lerner presented a summary of his comments from the
December 4, 1985 Public Hearing, stating the basic proposals for the
text amendment. He explained that the items in the proposed text
amendment were generic to allow for future developers.
John Glass repeated his question from the previous Public Hearing
regarding the visual effect of the development on the church next
door. Jack Schliesmann responded that there would be a 53f foot
difference in the elevations of the two buildings' first floors.
The distance between the two buildings would be 82 feet at the
closest points. The difference in the highest points of the two
rooflines would be thirty feet. He also pointed out that the wing
extensions would create a more attractive and less institutional-looking
building. The homes to the northeast are at the same elevation as
the parcel.
Housing Commission Chairperson Karen Wirth addressed the Plan
Commission. She said that the Housing Commission has concerns regarding
congregate housing and the creation of a sensible text amendment.
She questioned the impact that the addition of 300 elderly people
would have on Village services.
(9:17 p.m. - Leah Cummins arrived. )
Mrs. Wirth presented copies of a draft ordinance on senior
congregate housing from Orland Park to the Plan Commission. She
raised concerns about the definition of ambulatory; what will happen
to people who cannot pay the rent; and who would manage the development.
Mr. Lerner responded that ambulatory refers to people who can
care for themselves. This definition includes handicapped people as
long as they can take care of themselves. He stated that Huntington
will do its own underwriting and therefore would ensure that a resident
had sufficient income to not only afford the rent in the present but
also for the future. In the event that a resident could not pay the
rent or was no longer able to care for him/herself, Lerner stated
Plan Commission Minutes - 3 - December 18, 1985
Huntington Square (continued)
that the management would assist the resident in relocating. The
manager would be a specialist in senior citizen housing and be overseen
by the Dominium Group.
Housing Commission member Cathy Duoba pointed out the difference
between a retirement center and congregate housing. Mr. Lerner stated
that the proposed development would be senior congregate housing. He
responded to Duoba's question regarding handicapped facilities, stating
that the development would be totally accessible to the handicapped.
in addition, several units would be specifically designed for handicapped
residents.
Lerner explained to Duoba that he had built and retained management
of two developments in Kenosha, Wisconsin for handicapped and several
housing developments for the elderly. He responded to Mrs. Duoba that
he had no real problems in accepting the definition of congregate
housing from the Orland Park ordinance. He then told the Plan Commission
that Huntington would make arrangements with area nursing homes to
relocate residents of Huntington Square when their mobility declines
and they could no longer live on their own.
Mr. Lerner stated that between 15 and 20 people would be on the
staff. He pointed out the importance of having the right person
manage the development in order to make it successful. He explained
that all 47% of the open space would be green space.
Mr. Marvin Prace expressed his concern about the elderly residents
losing their memories. Mr. Lerner explained that the Wellness Center
would keep records of residents' medical histories and would assist
residents with health concerns. The Center would consider starting a
"buddy system" and periodically check residents' health.
Mr. John Maxey raised a concern regarding the need for a task
force to study senior citizen housing needs. He discussed many of
the needs of senior citizens and asked the developer to allow a
council of residents to advise the management.
Tom Rettenbacher pointed out that the developer must meet the
Federal standards for handicapped facilities.
Mr. Larry Herforth, member of the Housing Commission, expressed
concerns about the enforcement of the senior congregate housing provisions.
He also recommended a task force be formed to study the problem.
(10:55 p.m. - Leah Cummins left. )
Fred Geinosky suggested an informal meeting between the Plan
Commission and all other interested parties. Chairman Glass stated
that the Plan Commission did not have the authority to create a task
force but could invite those interested parties to attend a meeting
just for this topic on Wednesday, January 22, 1986 at 8 p.m.
The Public Hearing was closed at 11 :04 p.m.
O'Hare Center for Business--Plat of Subdivision
Plans for the 23 acre development were presented to the Plan
Commission. Fullowing discussion, George Mullen motioned to recommend
approval of the plat subject to staff review and Fred Geinosky
seconded it. The vote for approval was unanimous.
Plan Commission Minutes - 4 - December 18, 1985
The meeting was adjourned at 11 :11 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Administrative Intern
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