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ELK GROVE VILLAGE PLAN COMMISSION
Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1985
Location: Council Chamber
Municipal Building
901 Wellington Avenue
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Glass at 8:15 p.m.
Members Present: Members Absent:
John Glass, Chairman Leah Cummins
George Mullen Orrin Stangeland
Clark Fulton, Acting Secretary Fred Geinosky
David Paliganoff
Staff Present:
Tom Rettenbacher, Building Commissioner
Robin Weaver, Administrative Assistant
John Coakley, Administrative Intern
Others representing Huntington Square:
Michael Lerner, The Property Group
Bob Lux, Project Director, Dominium Group
Jayne Matt, Shepherd, Legan, Aldrian, Ltd.
Jack Schliesmann, Dominium Group
Others:
Several members of the Housing Commission
and several unidentified persons.
Huntington Square
The Public Hearing was called to order at 8:16 p.m. by Chairman Glass.
Jayne Matt stated that the special concept of Huntington Square would
enhance the lives of residents. She said that the important aspects of
a retirement center was the open space, package of amenities, and the
one building design of the development.
The proposed concept is the development of a retirement center
which provides independent living for retirees.
Michael Lerner reiterated the need for a text amendment to provide
zoning for retirement communities. Presently, the Village Codes do not
allow for this type of development. He further stated that all of the
amenities and programs would be included in Huntington's $1,000 - $1,500
rental fee.
Mr. Lerner responded to a question by George Mullen, stating that
he is currently involved with four similar retirement developments.
Three of these proposed developments are in Arizona and one is in
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Huntington Square (continued)
Schaumburg. Mr. Lerner has been involved with the construction of more
than 5,000 units of housing through the Dominium Group.
George Mullen inquired as to the differences between the village
Grove Apartments and the proposed development. Mr. Lerner responded
that there will be no subsidized units in Huntington Square. He further
stated that the larger units, numerous amenities, 24 hour call system,
the programs, and activities which will create the lifestyle of Huntington
were also different than existing senior citizen housing.
Mr. Lerner explained that in order to accommodate future developers,
he was proposing a generic text amendment. He then explained the reason
for requesting 55 bedrooms per acre, by stating that retirement centers
have a lower density of approximately 1.2 persons per unit. Extra
bedrooms are typically only used for storage.
David Paliganoff requested that the petitioner explain the changes
requested for text amendment, point by point.
Jayne Matt said the main difference between the retirement center
and regular A-2 zoning is that the population is limited to older people.
Other differences include the lifestyle provided and the amenities.
Lerner added that market surveys have demonstrated a need for senior
housing of this type in the area. This data would be provided later for
the Plan Commission. Jayne Matt continued to explain the proposed text
amendment, stating that a minimum of 100 units would be needed in order
to financially support the amenities. The development should also be
designed as one unit.
David Paliganoff asked about construction time and phasing of the
project. Lerner said he would have no objection toa time limit of two
years placed on construction.
Ms. Matt addressed the need for meal service in the retirement
community. The text amendment could allow for either in-house meal
service or a catered service. She asserted the importance of the support
facilities which are necessary for the lifestyle provided. The amenities
should be a requirement in the text amendment in the amount of at least
55 square feet of common space per unit.
The requirement for elevators and ramps are also important because
the elderly have trouble with stairs.
Lerner pointed out that the height restriction will allow for "mid-
rise" rather than highrise buildings. The intent of this section is to
maintain the residential environment of Elk Grove. In addition, a minimum
distance between buildings should be included.
David Paliganoff asked how critical the 15 foot setback requirement
was to Huntington as opposed to their 10 foot setback proposal. Mr.
Lerner replied that he did not think that it was critically important
but he would have to check with the architech.
Lerner also explained that retirement centers do not need as much
open space as a typical residential development, as senior citizens are
engaged mostly in indoor activities.
The density requirements for retirement centers was proposed to be
35 dwelling units per acre and 55 bedrooms per acre. The population pro-
jections for retirement communities show approximately 20% of the units
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Huntington Square (continued)
would be double occupancy. The remaining 80% of the units would be
occupied by single residents.
Ms. Matt replied to David Paliganoff's question regarding parking
by responding that the parking space dimensions could be made 9 feet by
19 feet rather than the requested 9 feet by 18 feet, but it would mean
less green space. She further noted that only . 75 spaces per unit would
be necessary although the Huntington proposal is for one space per unit.
Statistics from other retirement communities show only .6 spaces per
unit are needed.
Tom Rettenbacher asked about the loading space provisions. Ms. Matt
stated that a 20 foot by 100 foot loading area was provided for the village
center portion of the development. This met with current A-2 standards.
Clark Fulton suggested a restriction be put on the distance between
a unit and the community areas. Michael Lerner agreed that this
suggestion could be included.
Chairman Glass asked the petitioner to explain who owns the property.
Discussion followed regarding whether or not the owners were a part of
a corporation. If they were a corporation, they were required by law
to be represented by an attorney. This question would be answered
at the next meeting.
Mr. Mary Prace, a resident of Elk Grove, addressed the Plan Commission.
He expressed concerns regarding the purpose of a text amendment, zoning
in general, and this developer's experience with housing for the elderly.
Another resident, Mr. Sid Miller, said he felt that the process
for the text amendment and annexation was backward. He suggested that
a text amendment be carefully designed by the village prior to the
consideration of any development proposal.
Cathy Duoba, a member of the Housing Commission, addressed the Plan
Commission. She requested that the Plan Commission not make a decision
on the text amendment until the Housing Commission had an opportunity
to review the proposal. She further stated that the Housing Commission
had a lot of background information that could assist the Plan
Commission.
Chairman Glass said the Plan Commission would welcome any assistance.
The public hearing regarding the text amendment was adjourned at 10:24 p.m.
(Ten minute recess. )
The Chairman called to order the second public hearing, regarding
rezoning, at 10:34 p.m.
Michael Lerner reiterated Huntington Square's request for rezoning.
He stated that the proposed development would consist of 216 dwelling
units with 144 two-bedroom and 72 one-bedroom units. The development
would be a retirement center. The proposal includes a center core area
called the village center, four residential wings, six elevators, and
underground parking.
Clark Fulton asked a question regarding health facilities. Mr.
Lerner responded that no facilities were provided. The wellness center
would keep residents' health records, check their blood pressure, and
develop fitness activities for each person.
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Huntington Square (continued)
Mr. Lerner stated that although several means of financing were
available, no financing had been arranged, as yet. He then responded
to a question by Clark Fulton by stating that the development would
take about two years to construct.
George Mullen inquired about who would own the property once it
was developed. Mr. Lerner responded that the policy of the owners is
to sell portions but retain control as the General Partner.
Discussion followed regarding the elevation of the parcel in
relation to the elevation of the church property to the east. Chairman
Glass requested this information be brought in at the next meeting.
The public hearing was adjourned at 11 :41 p.m.
Both public hearings will be continued at 8:30 p.m. on December 18, 1985.
Respectfully submitted,
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J n M. Coakley
A ministrative Intern
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c: Chairman & Members of Plan Commission, Village President, Board of
Trustees, Village Clerk, Village Manager, Assistant Village Manager,
Administrative Assistant, Administrative Intern, Building Commissioner,
Village Engineer, Director of Public Works, Fire Chief, Deputy Fire
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