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ELK GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
JUNE 6, 1979
The regular meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Acting
Chairman Mullen at 8:05 p.m. on Wednesday, June 6, 1979, in the Council
Chamber of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington Avenue.
MEMBERS PRESENT: STAFF PRESENT:
George Mullen, Acting Chairman Thomas Rettenbacher,
Leah Cummins Building Commissioner
Fred Geinosky
John Glass Stephen M. Feller,
Administrative Assistant
MEMBERS-ABSENT:
Orrin Stangeland Charles L. Durham,
Administrative Intern
Acting Chairman
Glass made a motion that Cummins be named as the next Acting
Chairman of the Plan Commission. Geinosky seconded the motion. All
present voted "AYE' .
Docket 79-3: Benevolent & Protective Order of Elks
Elk Grove Village Lodge No. 2423
The Plan Commission, acting as a Zoning Commission, conducted a
public hearing on the petition of the Benevolent & P,rotective Order of
Elks, Elk Grove Village Lodge No. 2423. The petitioners were request-
ing that the Village continue the Special Use Permit granted to the
Elk Grove Village Lodge No. 2423 for the property located at 115 Gordon
Street.
Ronald Gersdorf was present to represent the petitioners.
Mr. Gersdorf stated that his organization was requesting that the
Village continue the Special Use permit authorizing the property
located at 115 Gordon Street to be used as a lodge and recreation
center.
Cummins began the questioning by asking if the petitioner still
had the arrangement for parking. The petitioner responded that he did
have an agreement and at that point he presented a letter so stating.
Mullen continued the questioning by asking if the use of the building
would be exactly the same as in prior years. The petitioner responded
that the use would remain the same.
Geinosky then asked if the petitioner was aware of any problems
that had been created by the use of the building in previous years.
The petitioner stated .that he was not awareof any problems. Cummins
continued by asking the Building Commissioner if he was aware of any
problems. The Building Commissioner indicated that he had checked
the files and could find no record of any problems.
At that point, Mullen moved to recommend that the Special Use
permit for the property located at 115 -Gordon Street be extended for
a-perTod--of one -year-. --G-lass_ seconded the motion- Al 1 present voted 'AYE' .
Plat of Dedication for Petrie Grove
Cummins stated that both the Building and Engineering Departments
had reviewed and approved the plat. Mullens made a motion to recommend
approval of the Plat of Dedication for Perrie Grove. Glass seconded
the motion. All present voted 'AYE' .
Special Location Parking Plan: Brother Internatibhil 'Corporation
Stephen StPba, Regional Administrative Manager, was present to
represent the petitioner in the request for a special location parking
plan for the property located at 900 Lunt Avenue. Mr. Strba explained
that the proposed lot wou4d be located offsite on a neighboring property.
He also noted that the parking lot would provide more space for the
corporation's employees.
Mullen began the questioning by asking if there were a change
of use at the location. Strba responded that there was not a change
in use, except that the company needed additional parking facilities.
Rettenbacher then asked the petitioner how many employees work
at the facility at one time. Strba replied that there are between
forty (40) and fifty (50) employees. Rettenbacher continued by asking
if the company presently had at least twenty-five (25) parking spaces'
at the location. Strba indicated that they did, but that their present
needs required additional space. Rettenbacher noted that the facility
appeared to be in compliance with the Village ordinance and, therefore,
a special location parking plan may not be needed. Glass agreed that
the plan did not need to be recorded and suggested that the petitioner
obtain a building permit. Strba 'thankedthe Plan Commission, and noted
that he would contact the Building Department.
The meeting adjourned at 8:30 P.M.
Submitted by:
Stephen M. Feller
(6-13-79) Administrative Assistant
c: Chairman & Members of Plan Commission, Village President and Board of
Trustees, Village Clerk, Village Manager, Assistant Village Manager,
Administrative Assistant, Administrative Intern, Building Commissioner,
Village Engineer, Director of Parks and Recreation, Centex, NWMC.
Notes from 6/6/79 Judiciary, Planning and Zoning Committee/Plan .Commission
Meeting (8:30 p.m.)
JPZ Committee Plan Commission
Present: Present:
Trustee Vanderweel , Chairman Leah Cummins , Acting Chairman
Trustee Staddler John Glass
Trustee Petri Fred Geinosky
George Mullen
Absent: None Absent: Orrin Stangeland
Staff
Gary Parrin, Asst. Village Manager
Thomas Rettenbacher, Building Commissioner
Stephen Feller, Administrative Assistant
Charles Durham, Administrative Intern
Trustee Hauser was also in attendance.
Trustee Vanderweel began the discussion by stating that the meeting
had been called to discuss the updating of the Comprehensive Plan, Zoning
Ordinance, Thoroughfare Report and Subdivision Regulations . She noted
that a total of $70,000 had been allocated to update these documents ,
but the decision had not been made as to how the funds should be distri-
buted among the four projects. She added that it may not be possible
to update all the subject documents with the funding available.
Trustee Vanderweel continued by noting that the immediate concern
is to update Comprehensive Plan which has not been updated since 1968.
She stated that because the plan is outdated, the Village is in danger
of losing its standing before the Cook County Court in cases_ where_ the_
plan'spresentation becomes an issue. Trustee Vanderweel also__i_nd.ica.ted
that a decision should be made concerning the extent to which the plan
should be revised; (i .e. should the revisionprocess be limited- -o future
concerns or must historical data be updated as well?)
Mr. Glass continued the discussion by' stating that certain aspects
of the proposed updated Comprehensive Plan are pretty much set; (i .e.
the Village's geographic boundaries) . He added that the Village might
be able to gather much of the data needed for the updating of the
Comprehensive Plan from the 1980 census report.
Mr. Parrin noted that the updated Comprehensive Plan should serve
two major functions. First, it should identify areas of Village growth
in order to help settle land use questions. This information would be
extremely useful in managing growth in the community.
Mr. Parrin continued by noting that the second major function
of the updated Comprehensive Plan should be to serve as an official
land use map in conformance with County requirements.
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Trustee Vanderweel acknowledged Mr. Parrin statement and continued
the discussion by noting that the existing Comprehensive Plan was not
much different than the original Centex Plan compiled years before;
yet, she added, the existing plan had cost the Village over $30,000.00
in consulting fees.
Mr. Mullen stated that as he understood it the Village has two
problems in updating the Plan. The first is obtaining a plan that will
stand up in the courts. The second problem is that the same plan would
also be required to provide data from which the Village management could
draw upon in planning services and development. As a result, the
Village would need to ensure that effective land use data will be
obtained with the updated Comprehensive Plan by thoroughly investigating
the consultant retained to develop _the Plan.___
Mr. Glass suggested that perhaps the Village should consider up-
dating the Comprehensive Plan internally and, therefore, retaining
control over its direction. Mr. Parrin stated that updating the plan
internally would probably not work since the Village does not have the
required in-house expertise.
At that point, Trustee Vanderweel asked Mr. Parrin what he felt the
immediate role of the Village should be in the updating of the Compre-
hensive Plan. Mr. Parrin stated that the Village should interview
candidates and help select the one most qualified to handle the project.
Next Ms. Cummins noted that while certain elements of the existing
Comprehensive Plan would remain constant most of them needed revision.
However, she added that to what extent these elements ought to be
revised should be determined at a later date. She stated that the
emphasis at this point should be to concentrate on the future aspects
of the Comprehensive Plan. This could be accomplished by the Village
taking an Impact Zoning approach to planning, (i .e. develop the remain-
ing land to be annexed by the Village, based on the (natural ) resources
available) .
Trustee Vanderweel asked Mr. Rettenbacher how much undeveloped and
unincorporated property could potentially be brought into the Village.
Mr. Rettenbacher stated that there were potentially 200. - 300 residential
acres and 700 - 1000 industrial acres (250-300 acres if property east
of Elmhurst Road were eliminated) that might be developed as part of
the Village in the future.
Mr. Rettenbacher added that since so much property was at issue i
an updated Comprehensive Plan would be a good document for the Village
to have. Trustee Vanderweel agreed and added that the Village Attorney
had stated on occasion that having an. expert witness was also important
when going to court with such a document.
At- that point., Trustee Staddler stated that perhaps the best way
to proceed would be to contact three or four consultants and let them
make proposals for the updating of the Comprehensive Plan since they
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are the experts. Mr. Mullen stated that he agreed and added that in
his view the Village could ei:ther draw an. outline. by which the con-
sultants could proceed or allow them to submit their own recommenda-
tions. The direction taken depends on whether or not the Village
knows what it wants included in the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Rettenbacher asked if it might be feasible to have the
consultants work with both the Zoning Ordinance and the Comprehensive
Plan. Both Trustee Vanderweel and Ms. Cummins agreed that such joint
consideration should be required.
The consensus of the Judiciary, Planning and Zoning
Committee and the Plan Commission was that the Village should contact
several consultants and let them make recommendations on the direction
for the updating of the Comprehensive Plan.
Trustee Vanderweel suggested that the Village Attorney review
the "Request for Proposals" to make sure that it solicits sufficient
information on the experience of the potential consultants. The
objective is to find a consultant who will be viewed as an expert
witness in court.
Staff was directed to:
- Compile a list of potential consultants.
- Prepare a "Request for Proposals" to be sent to the
potential consultants.
- Send the list of consultants and the "Request for
Proposals" to the JPZ and Plan Commission:. for
additions , deletions and/or revisions. *
The meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
*Mrs. Cummins emphasized that the Plan Commission should be a full
participant in the selection of a consultant.
c: President & Board of Trustees
Village Manager
Village Clerk
Village Attorney
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