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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLAN COMMISSION - 10/21/1981 - LANDMEIER AT PERRIE DRIVE LANDSCAPE PLAN Minutes Elk Grove Village Plan Commission Wednesday, October 21, 1981 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order at 8:20 p.m. on Wednesday, October 21, 1981 in the Multi-Purpose Room of the Municipal Building, 901 Wellington Avenue. MEMBERS PRESENT: Cummins, Leah, Secretary Fulton, Clark Geinosky, Frederick C. Mullen, George E. Paliganoff, David J. Stangeland, Orrin J. Glass, John R. , Chm. (arrived 8:40 p.m.) JPZ MEMBERS PRESENT: James P. Petri Edward R. Hauser (arrived 8:30 p.m.) STAFF PRESENT: James E. Sunagel, Deputy Fire Chief Jon P. Wildenberg, Administrative Assistant Landscape Plan: L•andmeier Road at Perrie Drive Esper Petersen was present to answer questions regarding the landscape plan he submitted for the purpose of screening his industrial property from the Regency Square apartment complex across Perrie Drive. Petersen went on to state that the Amur Privets he proposed are preferred over Buckthorns, for his past experience has shown that Buckthorns thin out on the bottom. In response to Cummins, Petersen told the Commission he would adjust the spacing between plants to 30 inches. Paliganoff expressed concerns regarding the necessity to trim the landscape material. Petersen responded that trimming would probably not be required as the area is quite open and the intent of the landscape plan is to let the plant material spread and provide as much screening as possible. Petersen assured Commission members that Regency Square property owners would be allowed to trim the material should they want to. In response to Fulton, Petersen stated that the height of material at planting would be 4' - 5' and the mature height would be 10' - 12' in five years. Stangeland inquired whether a mix of Buckthorn and Privet would be possible. Petersen. replied that he would like to stick with Privet because it is highly recommended by his nurseryman. Fulton moved to accept the proposed landscape plan of Esper Petersen to be planted along his west property line near the northeast corner of Landmeier and Perrie Drive, with a spacing of 30 inches between planting material, and approximately 212 total Amur Privet plants. Geinosky seconded. The motion was unanimously approved. 0 0 Plan Commission Minutes - 2 - October 21, 1981 Preliminary Roadway Configuration Plan: Northwest Point Howard G. Krafsur of Bennett and Kahnweiler Associates was present to render comments and answer questions regarding a preliminary roadway configuration plan (dated October 19, 1981) for the Northwest Point office park development (formerly the K1ehm Property) . Mullen questioned the layout of the proposed King Street extension and inquired as to why it was not aligned with the present King Street right-of-way. Krafsur stated that after many months of negotiation this was the only possible configuration available. Krafsur added that Illinois Bell (owners of the property through which King Street is extended) will not consider allowing the roadway to be placed any further west as shown on the roadway plan being considered; therefore, alignment with King Street is not feasible. Fulton inquired as to the possibility of seeking a solution to the east of the King Street extension. Krafsur responded that no solution to the east is available due to the placement of current developments in that area. Stangeland observed that perhaps Bennett and Kahnweiler could strike a deal with Illinois Bell (IBT) whereby Bennett and Kahnweiler would receive the land necessary to construct a roadway in line with King Street in exchange for land area sufficient to construct a parking lot for Illinois Bell employees to the north or west of the Illinois Bell building. Krafsur replied that Stangeland's alternative had been discussed with Illinois Bell and that IBT is not willing to consider this option. Fulton asked what the distance between IBT's building and a future King Street with no offset would be. Krafsur 'responded that this distance would appear to be at least 25 to 30 feet. Krafsur further stated that the concept of an offset for King Street is not a new idea being brought forward at this time. It has been discussed in previous presentations of the project and his understanding is that the Village would be able to live with such an offset. Fulton questioned Krafsur as to whether any members of the Village Staff had been involved in Bennett and Kahnweiler's negotiations with Illinois Bell. Krafsur related that Staff had not done so as yet. Krafsur pointed out to Commission members that should all options for the placement of King Street extended fail, the remaining alternative would be Village condemnation of the property necessary to construct an aligned King Street. However, although condemnation is a possible solution it is not felt to be a very feasible solution in the given circumstance. Cummins asserted that the configuration plan as presented is most certainly very poor from a planning perspective due to the non- alignment of King Street. Krafsur related that the configuration plan had been called "liveable" by Village Staff. Glass commented that perhaps one of IBT's concerns was that of pedestrian safety should King Street be extended straight through. Under that circumstance, IBT employees parked in the lot to the east of King Street extended would be required to cross a potentially well- traveled road to get to work. Plan Commission Minutes - 3 - October 21, 1981 !Northwest Point (continued) current V---- Park--"ng Lot IBT Property I , , N King_ , , t=-=St. -,>, , King , ext. , ,<-St. , off- , IBT set Building I Lee St. King St. Stangeland inquired of Krafsur whether IBT would accept any Bennett and Kahnweiler property to the west of IBT's property as compensation for the parking area lost. Krafsur replied that IBT would.not consider that type of arrangement. Glass then asked Commission members if there were any concerns among them regarding the remainder of the roadway plan. Glass mentioned that the existing driveway entrance to the IBT property which is located on the King Street/Lee Street curve should be closed off for traffic safety reasons if King Street is extended. Glass further stated that a new driveway opening to the IBT property should be provided on King Street extended for purposes of safe ingress and egress by automobiles to the property. Krafsur responded that the current understanding with Illinois Bell is that Bennett and Kahnweiler.-will provide an additional driveway on King Street extended. Stangeland asked Krafsur if the possibility of extending Lively Boulevard to the Northwest Point development was explored. Krafsur replied that an extension of Lively Boulevard was not possible due to the many intervening properties. Cummins suggested that the Commission unanimously disapprove the entire plan, and recommend same to the Village Board. Stangeland expressed agreement with Cummins. Glass stated he was not in agreement with Cummins for the Commission was in agreement with every aspect of the roadway configuration plan save the King Street/,Lee Street intersection and offset. Therefore, a recommendation from the Plan Commission should express to the Village Board which aspects of the plan are acceptable, and which aspects are not acceptable. Cummins made a motion to disapprove the roadway configuration plan as proposed. Discussion followed. Glass reiterated that these portions of the plan which are acceptable should receive approval, and those portions not acceptable should not be approved - rejection of the entire roadway plan based on the objectionable qualities of only one aspect of the plan would be misleading. Stangeland declared that he could not approve the roadway plan; further, the offset is an embarrassment, to good planning principles. • Plan Commission Minutes - 4 - October 21, 1981 Northwest Point (continued) Geinosky asked for the Chairman to call the question, whereupon Glass called for a vote on the Cummins' motion. The following voted AYE: Cummins, Geinosky, Mullen, Paliganoff, Stangeland. The following voted NAY: Glass, Fulton. The motion to disapprove the proposed preliminary roadway configuration plan submitted by Bennett and Kahnweiler Associates to serve the Northwest Point office park development was passed (5 AYE, 2 NAY) . Sidewalk Control Trustees James P. Petri and Edward R. Hauser, members of the JPZ Committee, were in attendance to discuss Subdivision Control Ordinance requirements for sidewalks with members of the Plan Commission. Petri noted that the purpose of this joint effort by the JPZ and Plan Commission is to develop a policy for establishing sidewalk requirements in areas where unique circumstances have allowed for variations in the current ordinance. Petri also noted that many areas in the Village have been left without sidewalks due to County and State prohibitions, or the configuration of drainage ditches. Glass mentioned sidewalks will become increasingly important as the need for access to public transportation increases. Petri stressed the need for any sidewalk control policy to be equitable under all circumstances. Note was made of a report from the Village Engineer which delineates areas throughout the Village that are in noncompliance with the current Subdivision Control Ordinance. Discussion of various methods that could be utilized to bring nonconforming areas into conformance followed. Those methods include: 1. Adjusted sidewalk configurations (other than parallel with street); 2. Require deposit from developers to ensure construction of sidewalk; 3. Village and Property Owner construction cost sharing; 4. Increase enforcement activity of current ordinance and obtain compliance where physically possible. Members of the JPZ Committee requested that the Plan Commission establish a data base of those areas which are included on public transportation routes. The JPZ Committee will consult with the Village Attorney regarding legal aspects of sidewalk control. Comprehensive Plan Discussion regarding an update of the Comprehensive Master Plan followed. Hauser noted that it was important to maintain the legal integrity of the Comprehensive Plan throughout any revision or review. The Plan Commission will review the Comprehensive Plan and make recommendations as to its revision. • r Plan Commission Minutes - 5 - October 21, 1981 The meeting was adjourned at 11:20 p.m. Respectfully submitted: on P. Wildenberg Administrative Assistant ms c: Chairman & Members of Plan Commission, Village President & Board of Trustees, Village Clerk, Village Manager, Assistant Village Manager, Administrative Assistant, Administrative Intern, Building Commissioner, Village Engineer, Director of Public Giorks, Fire Chief, Director of Parks and Recreation, Centex. NWMC, McGraw-Hill.